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Old 10 Jul 2009, 20:12 (Ref:2499152)   #16
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This is really too bad, the Supercar series seemed to have its own unique rules and the most wonderful variety of automobiles.
I still remember when they raced up at the Arctic Circle Raceway, that was sweet.
In my own opinion, they need to increase race length. Right now you get less track time in Nordic Supercar than Carrera Cup, with cars that are a lot more expensive. If the races were about 2hrs or 2x1hr, that would probably attract a lot more people who think CC is expensive sprint racing. Money talks in the end, and right now there's no real reason to do NS unless you're wealthy and really like Corvette/Saleen/Viper...
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Old 10 Jul 2009, 21:40 (Ref:2499189)   #17
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In my own opinion, they need to increase race length. Right now you get less track time in Nordic Supercar than Carrera Cup, with cars that are a lot more expensive. If the races were about 2hrs or 2x1hr, that would probably attract a lot more people who think CC is expensive sprint racing. Money talks in the end, and right now there's no real reason to do NS unless you're wealthy and really like Corvette/Saleen/Viper...
How many miles long is the average race?
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Old 10 Jul 2009, 22:19 (Ref:2499205)   #18
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How many miles long is the average race?
Right now they're 2x 40km, which is just under 25 miles each. Carrera races are 2x 50km (31 miles each). The difference isn't that big, but Carrera Cup cars are cheaper, the racing is closer and more competitive, broadcasted on TV and have spectators. For NS to make it, they need to run about 4-5 events that doesn't clash with Carrera (CC teams have shown interest in racing in "another series", be it SLC or NSC, with their Cup cars and drivers, and two teams already did it last year), have good race length to interest people looking for value for money, be on TV (even if it's a highlights package) and get some gate crowd. If they team up with a few classes not on the STCC bill, like Formula Renault, Ginetta Cup, Superkart and maybe even Modsport/Roadsport, and do some advertising scheme like the old Sun Brands Hatch days, they might create a niche for themselves. Not that I think any of this will happen, mind you. The crowd is less important though, main thing is that they interest more people with money to come out and play.
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Old 11 Jul 2009, 07:32 (Ref:2499310)   #19
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Anyway, these series are our last shot to see Corvette C5-Rs, Viper GTS-Rs, and Porsche 996s raced competitively.

Hope that the series stays around a while.
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Old 12 Jul 2009, 10:07 (Ref:2499909)   #20
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Is this the Sunred GT?
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Old 12 Jul 2009, 10:45 (Ref:2499923)   #21
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No, that is the SRM V8.

From what I remember nothing more than a V8STAR chassis with different body.
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Old 12 Jul 2009, 10:49 (Ref:2499924)   #22
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Nope. Re-bodied V8STAR.

They call it an SRM V8.



Some more info about it
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Old 12 Jul 2009, 13:29 (Ref:2500054)   #23
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My god that thing has taken a serious beating from the ugly stick!
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Looks like a more modern version of Turismo Carretera.
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Why are most, if not all these....errr...non GT racing cars so ugly?
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My god that thing has taken a serious beating from the ugly stick!
Not enough to kill and bury the poor thing, it still looks like it can scury around.
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Im guessing it works aerodynamically, looks dog rough but clearly goes!!
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Right now they're 2x 40km, which is just under 25 miles each. Carrera races are 2x 50km (31 miles each). The difference isn't that big, but Carrera Cup cars are cheaper, the racing is closer and more competitive, broadcasted on TV and have spectators. For NS to make it, they need to run about 4-5 events that doesn't clash with Carrera (CC teams have shown interest in racing in "another series", be it SLC or NSC, with their Cup cars and drivers, and two teams already did it last year), have good race length to interest people looking for value for money, be on TV (even if it's a highlights package) and get some gate crowd. If they team up with a few classes not on the STCC bill, like Formula Renault, Ginetta Cup, Superkart and maybe even Modsport/Roadsport, and do some advertising scheme like the old Sun Brands Hatch days, they might create a niche for themselves. Not that I think any of this will happen, mind you. The crowd is less important though, main thing is that they interest more people with money to come out and play.
Lordy that is waaaay to short to even be called a sprint.

They should be at absolute minimum, at least sixty miles long.

At one time during the Trans-Am years, up here at the old Donnybrooke track, they used two thirty mile "races" to qualifying for grid placement in the one hundred mile race.
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Old 29 Aug 2009, 19:09 (Ref:2530626)   #29
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Well, they raced at Pärnu today. We'll see if they mention it on the official site or not, but five cars took part. They were:

#1 Pertti Kuismanen / Chrysler Viper GTS-R / Kuismanen Competition
#2 Peter Jervemyr / Porsche 996 GT2 / Playground Racing
#7 Mika Viitala / Venturi 400 / Spirit Racing Finland
#11 Johnny Carpor / Saleen S7-R
#22 Erik Behrens / Chrysler Viper GTS-R / ALFAB Racing

All cars raced in the GT2 class, although the Venturi and Porsche really should have been in GT3 - they were ten seconds of the space, and Pärnu is a very short circuit (53-second lap). The first race was very close between Behrens and Kuismanen (less than half a second distance between the two for most of the race) until Behrens first pulled away to a two second lead with three or four fast laps. He then lost his breaks on the final lap and lost the win to Kuismanen. The Saleen couldn't keep up with the Vipers and disappeared with a few laps to go, but at least he didn't get lapped (the Venturi went a lap down towards the end of the 6th lap, and finished two laps down. Jervemyr was lapped once).

For the second race it was again close, with Kuismanen hounded by Behrens all race. Don't think the gap was more than one second at any point, although Kuismanen held on to win. The Saleen got stuck behind Jervemyr early on, and then had an off-track excursion which cost him about half a minute. But even in clear air his lap times were not as good as in race one. The Venturi didn't make it out for the second race. Sadly there were no other classes on track, so only four cars. I'm sure people enjoyed seeing the Vipers battle, but four cars is very meager. In general the grids in the other classes were also very small, though larger than the Supercars.
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At least the racing is apparently good.
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