IMSA Race 2016 Watkins Glen - Page 2

JLGarcia · 2 Jul 2016, 04:09 (Ref:3656198)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tux

Larry DeGeorge had a huge accident in the #27 Lamborghini, he climbed out unaided but that car is a mess.

You can say that again.

Coach Ep · 2 Jul 2016, 04:14 (Ref:3656200)

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLGarcia

You can say that again.

Wow!

And: Ouch!

Amazing to see his 'thumb up' while the car is on fire...!

I betcha it's the adrenaline, if I would see a crash - and aftermath - like that I would be very, very cautious to report the driver giving the 'ok-signal'. No need to hold back on sending all the available troops to a scene like this!

**skycafe** · 2 Jul 2016, 11:52 (Ref:3656235)

He may not have realized he was on fire at that moment, given that the door mirror, and with it the door, are gone. Can not believe he won't wake up for a few mornings with some aches and pains all over, and then the repair bills arrive. Wow.

cbbrit · 2 Jul 2016, 16:05 (Ref:3656274)

Results of P3:

http://imsatiming.com/Results/2016/W...actice%203.pdf

FLGTFAN · 2 Jul 2016, 16:22 (Ref:3656279)

Conti going green!

Maelochs · 2 Jul 2016, 17:02 (Ref:3656284)

F1 qualifying on one screen, work on one screen, the Conti race on one screen ... I need at least two more eyes and another screen for timing and scoring.

Lagunaseca_4life · 2 Jul 2016, 19:26 (Ref:3656310)

Its a shame imsa has ruined conti competition by allowing the gt4 Porsches in.sigghhh....

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Maelochs · 2 Jul 2016, 20:09 (Ref:3656317)

GTD looked good, GTLM looking pretty good too ..... let's see if anything can catch the Fords and Ferraris.

EDIT: Corvette and Porsche can so far.

Edit Edit: Spoke too soon.

TF110 · 2 Jul 2016, 20:15 (Ref:3656320)

41.3's, now that's moving!

MaskedRacer · 2 Jul 2016, 20:19 (Ref:3656322)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelochs

GTD looked good, GTLM looking pretty good too ..... let's see if anything can catch the Fords and Ferraris.

EDIT: Corvette and Porsche can so far.

Edit Edit: Spoke too soon.

GTLM in 2017 post repaving not that far off Protos pre repave. First time this year I am impressed with their lap times. I guess the turbo charged engined teams finally decided post Le Mans what they are made of. Good to see BMW can keep pace with Ford and Ferrari.

Maelochs · 2 Jul 2016, 20:19 (Ref:3656323)

IMSA monitors boost in real time so cars get penalized for overboosting during the race? Wonderful---what about the normally aspirated cars which get penalized for not having turbos?

I hate to complain but isn't BoP supposed to insure that some really good cars/teams are Not two seconds off the pace when flat out?

TF110 · 2 Jul 2016, 20:26 (Ref:3656324)

GTD was the same, even though there were no turbo'd cars. Audi's around 1.5, 2 seconds faster than the BMW and Viper.

Purist · 2 Jul 2016, 20:41 (Ref:3656328)

On GTD, aren't the GT3 Ferrari and BMW turbocharged also? I mean, it is the M6 and the F488 in that class now as well, not just in GTLM.

Maelochs · 2 Jul 2016, 20:54 (Ref:3656333)

Not seeing such huge gaps in GTD:
# CAR BEHIND NEXT BEST LAP
1 6 AUDI R8 LMS GT3 0.000 1:45.407
2 23 PORSCHE 911 GT3 R 0.042 1:45.449
3 9 AUDI R8 LMS GT3 0.145 1:45.594
4 48 LAMBORGHINI HURACAN GT3 0.581 1:46.175
5 63 FERRARI 488 GT3 0.030 1:46.205
6 73 PORSCHE 911 GT3 R 0.256 1:46.461

Maelochs · 2 Jul 2016, 21:00 (Ref:3656335)

Hoping to see the Mazda grab the pole. beautiful livery.

Starfish Primer · 2 Jul 2016, 21:06 (Ref:3656338)

GTD as a proam class is also more sensible to the drivers hands, for example the times of the #23 vs #540. This could be the next spin, BOP the drivers.

TF110 · 2 Jul 2016, 21:11 (Ref:3656340)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Purist

On GTD, aren't the GT3 Ferrari and BMW turbocharged also? I mean, it is the M6 and the F488 in that class now as well, not just in GTLM.

I meant that the fastest car's (R8, 911) weren't turbocharged. Maelochs, what about the gap to the BMW and Viper?

**joeb** · 2 Jul 2016, 21:14 (Ref:3656342)

That proto qualifying was great! New fast laps every time around. Can't wait for the race tomorrow!

TF110 · 2 Jul 2016, 21:20 (Ref:3656344)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

That proto qualifying was great! New fast laps every time around. Can't wait for the race tomorrow!

I was happy to see the Mazda's right there with the HPD's. If they can get a better chassis next year they may have the best package.

Maelochs · 2 Jul 2016, 21:21 (Ref:3656345)

.......#........CAR TYPE ....................BEHIND NEXT.......................BEST LAP
1..... 6..... AUDI R8 LMS GT3 .........................0 ..........1:45.407
2..... 23 .....PORSCHE 911 GT3 R....................0.042..........1:45.449
3 .....9..... AUDI R8 LMS GT3 ....................0.145.......... 1:45.594
4..... 48 .....LAMBORGHINI HURACAN GT3 .....0.581..........1:46.175
5..... 63..... FERRARI 488 GT3 ....................0.030..........1:46.205
6 .....73..... PORSCHE 911 GT3 R ....................0.256..........1:46.461
7..... 16..... LAMBORGHINI HURACAN GT3 .....0.046..........1:46.507
8 .....44..... AUDI R8 LMS GT3 ....................0.261..........1:46.768
9..... 96..... BMW M6 GT3 ....................0.060..........1:46.828
10..... 97 .....BMW M6 GT3 ....................0.154...............1:46.982
11..... 33 .....DODGE VIPER GT3-R....................0.210 ..........1:47.192
12..... 540 .....PORSCHE 911 GT3 R............... 0.715.......... 1:48.106
13..... 22 .....PORSCHE 911 GT3 R...............0.102.......... 1:48.208

Maelochs · 2 Jul 2016, 21:30 (Ref:3656348)

So the BMW turbos were slow, and so were a couple of Porsches. Maybe the BMWs got bad BoP but the Porsches cannot complain as a Porsche went second fastest. As Starfish Primer notes, drivers are wildly different in ability in GTD.

Slowest BMW was .210 quicker than the Viper. Don't know what that means. Wouldn't have expected Michael Marsal to was Ben Keating so badly. Maybe Vuiper needs setup help, maybe something else .... maybe more bad BoP. cannot tell.

And while I would have preferred to see Mazda take the pole, I was thrilled to see both DPs and P2s making good time .... and fast .... finally someone at grand Am has figured out that race cars are supposed to be fast. About time.

(Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know it is the new surface and new power levels for this season. Rent a sense of humor for the weekend, would you?

)

Yeah ... the race shows promise. Six hours is enough time for stuff to happen. Let's see who has every facet polished, and who just has heavy right feet. Real racing.

**joeb** · 3 Jul 2016, 00:14 (Ref:3656364)

I was wondering, given the series that race at Watkins Glen, is this week's poll the fastest time put in around that track in years? Is there a faster?

**joeb** · 3 Jul 2016, 00:20 (Ref:3656365)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maelochs

Yeah ... the race shows promise. Six hours is enough time for stuff to happen. Let's see who has every facet polished, and who just has heavy right feet. Real racing.

Actually, now that the Mazdas have pace and there are two Ligiers that have pace, the proto class is much more interesting. Add to that, the race is being shown in its entirety on a channel lots of people get makes the spectacle all the better.

I'm hoping for a race with minimal yellows, but with all 4 classes I'm expecting 5-7 cautions. Could you imagine how interesting a six-hour imsa race would be though if there were no cautions?

JLGarcia · 3 Jul 2016, 00:36 (Ref:3656368)

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeb

I was wondering, given the series that race at Watkins Glen, is this week's poll the fastest time put in around that track in years? Is there a faster?

The Indycar record from the late 2000s was about 7sec/lap faster.

chernaudi · 3 Jul 2016, 00:57 (Ref:3656370)

It doesn't really count (different layout without the boot) but Davy Jones ran a lap around the NASCAR layout (even with the bus stop) at just over 150mph average speed in 1992 with a Jaguar XJR-14.

Only a modern LMP1 car (from about 2008 onwards) could conceivably beat that right now as far as sportscars go.

I also think that IMSA GTPs were faster than the current IMSA cars around the endurance layout with the boot.

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