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Old 16 Aug 2013, 19:57 (Ref:3290784)   #626
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If GTA didn't turn their spec in cheaper DTM one, because of costs, super gt would not have a future.
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Old 16 Aug 2013, 19:59 (Ref:3290785)   #627
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Anyway, -100kg and an an higher torque release but how much downforce and aero efficency was lost?
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Old 16 Aug 2013, 20:03 (Ref:3290787)   #628
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The cars look worse than the current cars, but they're not as bad as it could have been. For one, the fronts are a lot more expressive with the Lexus and GTR than the boring DTM faces, which are near indistinguishable from a distance.

The DRS and swan rear wings need to go though.
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Old 16 Aug 2013, 20:07 (Ref:3290789)   #629
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I think the move to BECOME equal to dtm could lead to a hemorrhage of fans, who turn away from the super gt (become a clone of the DTM). This would economic consequences even more disastrous for the GTA.
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Old 16 Aug 2013, 20:09 (Ref:3290790)   #630
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First time I saw the new Lexus I thought it was the M3 DTM machine. They look quite similar to me at a glance. I don't care for that NSX much, aesthetically a downgrade from the HSV. Glad that Nissan stuck with the GTR, still looks fabulous.
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Old 16 Aug 2013, 20:17 (Ref:3290793)   #631
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First time I saw the new Lexus I thought it was the M3 DTM machine. They look quite similar to me at a glance. I don't care for that NSX much, aesthetically a downgrade from the HSV. Glad that Nissan stuck with the GTR, still looks fabulous.
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To bad nissan doesnt look bit more agressive, than it would be better, it looks good from the side but not so much from front or rear. Lexus hit that really good.
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Old 16 Aug 2013, 20:20 (Ref:3290794)   #632
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Then, the Japan began an expansionary monetary policy, are flooding the market with their currency, because this need to "cut costs" if the formula was successful?
Not in front of their seemed to an abyss, gaining more and more fans WORLDWIDE. Now, running behind the Germans, are likely to erode the trust and respect that they had earned over the years, trust given to this series because independent, dynamic, rich in content (technical and human).

Although cars are less bad than expected, do not find me okay with their "technical revolution".
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Old 16 Aug 2013, 20:29 (Ref:3290798)   #633
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sounds pretty good for a 4cyl

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Old 16 Aug 2013, 20:29 (Ref:3290799)   #634
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Old 16 Aug 2013, 20:31 (Ref:3290801)   #635
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sounds pretty good for a 4cyl

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Old 17 Aug 2013, 03:13 (Ref:3290867)   #636
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That GT-R looks much better than the current GT500. The proportions look like the road car.
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Old 17 Aug 2013, 04:11 (Ref:3290876)   #637
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DTM doesn't have the turbo engines, and they run the spec tires, those are two pluses with SuperGT. I think the downforce will be in the same area as before. Not as wide (-50mm), but current GT500 has no front diveplanes, the DTM have 2 each side. Im not sure on the numbers but I think the speed will be there!
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Old 17 Aug 2013, 04:30 (Ref:3290881)   #638
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The new chassis fits well the GTR, looks good. The new Lexus is nice too, better than the current one (not hard to accomplish TBH).
But I think those Honda designers watch too much mecha anime, the front looks like a robot's face
Maybe tweaking a bit the big black grill it can be better.
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Old 17 Aug 2013, 11:42 (Ref:3290965)   #639
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Just a fun trivia, guys... Did you all notice that out of the 3 2014 Super GT cars that was introduced, 2 of them are still in concept theme, only the GT-R is in production form...
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Old 17 Aug 2013, 13:17 (Ref:3290990)   #640
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While I like the look of the 2014 GT-R, I don't think the Americans won't get hooked on the DTM-style. It would look worse if this style is adapted to US pony cars.
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Old 17 Aug 2013, 13:19 (Ref:3290991)   #641
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So given the NSX is there, mid engined cars are eligible in DTM now? An Audi R8 DTM would be a thing to behold.
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While I like the look of the 2014 GT-R, I don't think the Americans won't get hooked on the DTM-style. It would look worse if this style is adapted to US pony cars.
We've had something similar.
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Old 17 Aug 2013, 16:56 (Ref:3291035)   #643
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Old 17 Aug 2013, 19:24 (Ref:3291073)   #644
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Pole of nissan nismo #23, second weider honda. Subaru BRZ pole of gt300
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Old 18 Aug 2013, 03:38 (Ref:3291190)   #645
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Old 18 Aug 2013, 08:20 (Ref:3291244)   #646
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That GT-R looks much better than the current GT500. The proportions look like the road car.
really? i think it looks worse than both the 2013 GT500 car and the GT3 car myself, its so hap-hazard looking

the Lexus looks better, but i put that more down to the LF-CC looking much much better than the SC430, not the new aero...the LF-CC with 2013 style aero would have been amazing

...maybe if the racing becomes dreary and dull like DTM currently is, theyll ditch the aero rules for 2015?
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LF-CC lacks of aggressivity in my opinion
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really? i think it looks worse than both the 2013 GT500 car and the GT3 car myself, its so hap-hazard looking

the Lexus looks better, but i put that more down to the LF-CC looking much much better than the SC430, not the new aero...the LF-CC with 2013 style aero would have been amazing

...maybe if the racing becomes dreary and dull like DTM currently is, theyll ditch the aero rules for 2015?
I think the problem lies deeper than the bodykit solution used.
Lexus and Honda designs are much closer to the German Design school,thus the DTM bodykit suits them really well.

GTR is still what I call a JDM machine. It still carries the japanese automotive design philosophy, so the DTM bodykit looks forced and out of place.
Just look how bad the rear wheel arch design-extension looks.

So I'm really concerned about the future of Japanese automotive industry regarding this issue. Hopefully it will not become the norm in the future.
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Old 18 Aug 2013, 12:10 (Ref:3291290)   #650
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Lexus uses an european design, LFA excluded. Honda doesn't produce luxury or high performaces cars at all, like the HSV-010, the NSX has not a road counterpart yet, anyway the mecha-face of the new NSX GT500 is pure japanese spirit.
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