Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition - Page 117

wewantourdarbyback · 5 Dec 2012, 15:05 (Ref:3175380)

I was about to suggest HVM's engine deal for Indycar might influence this, then I remembered it was the Lotus.

Gingers4Justice · 5 Dec 2012, 15:56 (Ref:3175392)

Autosport appears to believe it's going to be a Judd in the back:

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The Status GP team is teaming up with the HVM IndyCar squad to field a joint entry in the LMP2 class of the 2013 FIA World Endurance Championship.

The two teams, which will run under the HVM Status GP banner, plan to run a Lola-Judd/BMW B12/80 in the full WEC, which includes the Le Mans 24 Hours in June.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/104731

Coach Ep · 5 Dec 2012, 16:11 (Ref:3175399)

If that is correct, they´ll run the same package as last year, should be familiar - at least to Status. I hope they´ll bring the car to Sebring to get HVM acquainted with it in race circumstances...

Simmi · 5 Dec 2012, 20:47 (Ref:3175505)

Rebellion confirm their one-car ALMS programme on twitter and also say they are working on building a parallel programme in the WEC.

Hopefully they can get the budget to run a car in the WEC too.

https://twitter.com/RebellionRacing

gregtummer · 5 Dec 2012, 21:25 (Ref:3175517)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Rebellion confirm their one-car ALMS programme on twitter and also say they are working on building a parallel programme in the WEC.

Hopefully they can get the budget to run a car in the WEC too.

https://twitter.com/RebellionRacing

Got to believe that they will at least run Austin since they will already be there for ALMS.

Canada ALMS fan · 6 Dec 2012, 00:09 (Ref:3175568)

I wonder if a second car will be in the works for Sebring?

Marcel ten Caat · 6 Dec 2012, 00:33 (Ref:3175573)

Two cars confirmed for Sebring.

Canada ALMS fan · 6 Dec 2012, 02:23 (Ref:3175606)

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Originally Posted by Marcel ten Caat

Two cars confirmed for Sebring.

This makes my day.

Lorenzo S · 6 Dec 2012, 10:10 (Ref:3175690)

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Originally Posted by Marcel ten Caat

Two cars confirmed for Sebring.

This is really good news for the ALMS but potentially really bad news for the WEC. If they don't decide to run in the WEC or with only one car, I for one will be really disappointed. They have been my favourite team for the last few years and are more than just grid fillers.

This announcement should really act as a kick up the arse for the ACO. If their best privateer team doesn't think it's worth competing, there is something seriously wrong with the P1 class and the WEC in general. After all of the media hype has been peeled away, the WEC is looking decidedly shaky. Only Porsche is confirmed for 2014, Toyota may well knock its programme on the head after next year and I think it's still highly unlikely that Audi will be around for much longer, even if the two VW "brands" overlap for a year.

TF110 · 6 Dec 2012, 11:02 (Ref:3175709)

They have 3 cars. They've only committed one to ALMS full season. I doubt they'll sit out the WEC.

Lorenzo S · 6 Dec 2012, 12:00 (Ref:3175721)

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Originally Posted by TF110

They have 3 cars. They've only committed one to ALMS full season. I doubt they'll sit out the WEC.

Yes they have three chassis. One of which is ostensibly a spare from a manufacturer who no longer exists. Don't think Multimatic can build a new tub, maybe repair one. My guess is if Rebellion enters the WEC it will be with one chassis, or if we are lucky, two after Le Mans to make sure they have a spare for the 24 Hours. I hope I'm wrong though...

aneesh99 · 6 Dec 2012, 14:02 (Ref:3175779)

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Originally Posted by Lorenzo S

Yes they have three chassis. One of which is ostensibly a spare from a manufacturer who no longer exists. Don't think Multimatic can build a new tub, maybe repair one. My guess is if Rebellion enters the WEC it will be with one chassis, or if we are lucky, two after Le Mans to make sure they have a spare for the 24 Hours. I hope I'm wrong though...

I think you're on the money with this, it's what I was thinking about all morning in lectures! Until the position of Multimatic and their capabilities in terms of what they can do for Lola chassis cars is clear, I'd expect what you said.

Simmi · 6 Dec 2012, 14:29 (Ref:3175784)

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Originally Posted by Lorenzo S

Yes they have three chassis. One of which is ostensibly a spare from a manufacturer who no longer exists. Don't think Multimatic can build a new tub, maybe repair one. My guess is if Rebellion enters the WEC it will be with one chassis, or if we are lucky, two after Le Mans to make sure they have a spare for the 24 Hours. I hope I'm wrong though...

I don't see what the issue is? They have a one-car attack for the ALMS. Two for Sebring which was always going to be part of their schedule even if they did the WEC.

Post-Sebring that leaves a car for each series and a spare. It's true they can't afford to write off a chassis but who can apart from Audi.

Lorenzo S · 6 Dec 2012, 14:57 (Ref:3175795)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

I don't see what the issue is? They have a one-car attack for the ALMS. Two for Sebring which was always going to be part of their schedule even if they did the WEC.

Post-Sebring that leaves a car for each series and a spare. It's true they can't afford to write off a chassis but who can apart from Audi.

My "issue" is that I'm greedy

If (when!) I go to Spa, I want to see as many prototypes as possible and being a selfish sort(!) I would prefer to have two Rebellions than one. I'm sure anyone living in the US is thrilled at the prospect of seeing an extra P1 car but I would prefer the WEC had more prototypes than seeing the very few P1 cars spread thin in both ALMS and WEC.

Simmi · 6 Dec 2012, 15:06 (Ref:3175800)

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Originally Posted by Lorenzo S

My "issue" is that I'm greedy

If (when!) I go to Spa, I want to see as many prototypes as possible and being a selfish sort(!) I would prefer to have two Rebellions than one. I'm sure anyone living in the US is thrilled at the prospect of seeing an extra P1 car but I would prefer the WEC had more prototypes than seeing the very few P1 cars spread thin in both ALMS and WEC.

Yeah with you on that I feel the same regarding my trips to Silverstone and Le Mans.

Simmi · 6 Dec 2012, 18:23 (Ref:3175869)

Sam Collins of RCE speculates that the wording of the Rebellion press release implies a different chassis in the WEC.

On the train so not seen it. Could it be?

**Bentley03** · 6 Dec 2012, 18:33 (Ref:3175871)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

Sam Collins of RCE speculates that the wording of the Rebellion press release implies a different chassis in the WEC.

On the train so not seen it. Could it be?

Rich, was that on twitter?

**joeb** · 6 Dec 2012, 18:43 (Ref:3175874)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Rich, was that on twitter?

Can't seem to link the tweet from my phone but yes, rce on twitter.

**Bentley03** · 6 Dec 2012, 18:49 (Ref:3175875)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Rich, was that on twitter?

Thanks Joe!

Well, I've read the press release. Maybe Sam has caught a whiff of a story along the grapevine and the lack of specific detail regarding the WEC has added fuel to that.

For me, the sentence "For the 2013 season, the Swiss team will continue to campaign their Lola B12/60 Toyota powered cars and they will kick off the year in the United States of America...." implies that they intend to run their existing cars in both the ALMS and WEC, if they can fund the latter.

CTD · 6 Dec 2012, 18:50 (Ref:3175877)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Can't seem to link the tweet from my phone but yes, rce on twitter.

https://twitter.com/RacecarEngineer

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Racecar Engineering ‏@RacecarEngineer
Very carefully worded press release from Rebellion hints at them running a different chassis in WEC, with a Lola in ALMS

aneesh99 · 6 Dec 2012, 19:18 (Ref:3175890)

If Sam is talking about the same press release that we've seen, I'm not so sure. And what would they run for one year only for it to become obsolete for '14...?

CTD · 6 Dec 2012, 20:44 (Ref:3175921)

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Originally Posted by aneesh99

If Sam is talking about the same press release that we've seen, I'm not so sure. And what would they run for one year only for it to become obsolete for '14...?

If it's a Dome, then it makes sense as Dome will make a 2014 car, and the dome S102.5 would give valuable data for them.

The Badger · 6 Dec 2012, 22:59 (Ref:3175957)

I think they deserve a shot at running a TSO-30

Simmi · 6 Dec 2012, 23:17 (Ref:3175969)

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Originally Posted by CTD

If it's a Dome, then it makes sense as Dome will make a 2014 car, and the dome S102.5 would give valuable data for them.

Sam has hinted to our friend JAG that it (new chassis) could be done with an eye on 2014. Like you CTD the first thing that springs to mind for me is Dome.

isynge · 7 Dec 2012, 00:00 (Ref:3175981)

For my money I'd be astonished if the FIA/ACO didn't adopt some degree of pragmatism about 2014 as a transition year and allow some degree of grandfathering to take place.

If Rebellion are looking at a different chassis for 2013 (and to be honest the feeling I've had from my limited exposure to rapportage etc is that it'll be Lolas in ALMS and WEC) then I'd be very surprised if it was a one year only deal and would expect to see it in 2014 too.

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