2014 Silly Season (Merged x2) - Page 104

Samwhk · 11 Dec 2014, 01:51 (Ref:3483903)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

So did every other team.

Yup, proves Jamies point about every other team needing to raise their game when there's 4 and 1/2 factory squads behind a privateer.

bluesport · 11 Dec 2014, 01:58 (Ref:3483906)

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Originally Posted by Samwhk

Yup, proves Jamies point about every other team needing to raise their game when there's 4 and 1/2 factory squads behind a privateer.

Not likely to happen, it will most likely be T8 again next year unless Giz can pull something out of the bag.

Samwhk · 11 Dec 2014, 02:00 (Ref:3483908)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

Not likely to happen, it will most likely be T8 again next year unless Giz can pull something out of the bag.

Let's hope so, getting the new parts a few months behind the RedBull cars will make it a bit harder tho.

Axeman444 · 11 Dec 2014, 02:05 (Ref:3483910)

In defence of everyone else, isn't Tekno virtually a satellite team though?

Samwhk · 11 Dec 2014, 02:11 (Ref:3483912)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

In defence of everyone else, isn't Tekno virtually a satellite team though?

Nope, customer team.

Mixer · 11 Dec 2014, 04:05 (Ref:3483946)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

The part we should be getting excited about is that there have been very few 'tyre' failures that havent been induced by hitting things since the pressure mandate.

Exactly, imagine if this change wasn't made and someone lost a tyre at the Chase or Turn 8 at Adelaide....

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Originally Posted by TWRv12

Despite having their season ruined by not getting a grip on the tyre pressure problems, they still don't need a technical director...

Teflon Tim is very lucky, how many organisations would allow such a period of absolute lackluster performances and excuses.

If it wasn't for 2 Bathursts they'd have nothing to show.

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

In defence of everyone else, isn't Tekno virtually a satellite team though?

I don't believe they get any engineering support from 888 but I'd imagine they'd have all the latest bits.

Certainly LDM was closer in the beginning.

Umai Naa · 11 Dec 2014, 04:31 (Ref:3483948)

Allegedly, there is some correlation in data between Tekno and Triple Eight, but certainly not to the extent that LDM breifly enjoyed at the beginning of last season.

It's surprised me how Mr Edwards has kept his role in the team for so long. There also seems to be very little stability in roles in the team, year in year out, as well. No driver/engineer relationships have been maintained, as everybody gets shuffled around so much.

Scrut · 11 Dec 2014, 04:36 (Ref:3483949)

Didn't Roland Dane stop Jonathan Webb driving for HRT in the
enduro's this year ?

Their alliance must be closer than one might think.

rik · 12 Dec 2014, 00:31 (Ref:3484250)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Allegedly, there is some correlation in data between Tekno and Triple Eight, but certainly not to the extent that LDM breifly enjoyed at the beginning of last season.

LDM were getting plenty of help from 888 last year... David Cauchi (now with Whincup) was engineering Fiore's car. Also Ludo Lacroix was helping out.

http://www.speedcafe.com/2013/05/07/...other-for-ldm/

Perhaps the love fades when some forgets to pay the bills?

Umai Naa · 12 Dec 2014, 01:00 (Ref:3484261)

That was all done and dusted not long after. I suspect around the time Mr Dumbrell came out in the media, threatening to bench Mr Pye.

F J Nedos · 12 Dec 2014, 02:03 (Ref:3484266)

Why is this 2014 silly season thread still going? The season is over...

**GTRMagic** · 14 Dec 2014, 20:03 (Ref:3485022)

Welcome to FPR's 'Whinge Of The Week' Here

..where losing the championship is everyone's fault.. except team's inability to find a setup that worked most of the year..

Blame blame blame...

bluesport · 14 Dec 2014, 21:23 (Ref:3485041)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Welcome to FPR's 'Whinge Of The Week' Here

..where losing the championship is everyone's fault.. except team's inability to find a setup that worked most of the year..

Blame blame blame...

A bit harsh with the "whinge" comment GTR, it reads like an accurate assessment to me.

**GTRMagic** · 14 Dec 2014, 21:30 (Ref:3485044)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

A bit harsh with the "whinge" comment GTR, it reads like an accurate assessment to me.

Its rare to see 888 talk about so many things as reasons for their failure, when on the rare occasion it happens, and certainly not in public. WP talks about all the things they are doing to help improve their lot. NisMo talks about how their engines are their issue and blah b;ah blah.

Surely something like this should form a part of a 100 point plan, with actions coming out of it to execute into the next season and beyond to make sure the same negative things dont happen to the team again?

TWRv12 · 14 Dec 2014, 23:57 (Ref:3485068)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Welcome to FPR's 'Whinge Of The Week' Here

..where losing the championship is everyone's fault.. except team's inability to find a setup that worked most of the year..

Blame blame blame...

A dingo ate their setup book

**GTRMagic** · 15 Dec 2014, 00:33 (Ref:3485072)

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Originally Posted by TWRv12

A dingo ate their setup book

Well that's part of the fun. Having 4 cars in the team all running different setups and different damper brands per team wouldnt be helping much either

Umai Naa · 15 Dec 2014, 05:28 (Ref:3485114)

From what I gathered from the reports of their testing earlier this year, the traits in the FPR chassis are seem to be a Winterbottom influence.

Hence why Frosty deemed the #18 chassis perfectly fine, suggesting that Mr Perkins learn to adapt.

Tourer · 15 Dec 2014, 07:18 (Ref:3485129)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

A bit harsh with the "whinge" comment GTR, it reads like an accurate assessment to me.

Not a comment on your comment bluey - just wanted to say that your new avatar looks awesome. That is all.

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

From what I gathered from the reports of their testing earlier this year, the traits in the FPR chassis are seem to be a Winterbottom influence.

Hence why Frosty deemed the #18 chassis perfectly fine, suggesting that Mr Perkins learn to adapt.

Whereas any good engineer / team manager will tell you that if the driver isn't comfortable with what the car does, you're NEVER going to go quick with any regularity.

Sometimes you've got to sit a driver down and get their head straight but by & large expecting them to adapt only means that they never quite get "right" in the car.

Given the Frostmeister's televised tanty at A. Davison last year, I don't know that I'd have all the much respect for his assessment on team mates - particularly those in the "Charlie" car.

**GTRMagic** · 15 Dec 2014, 08:32 (Ref:3485142)

When the form and benchmark team in the category for the last 8 or so years says they are light on engineering talent despite finishing 1-2-4 in cars they built, and similarly in past years, you might wonder what kind of navel gazing is going on at WP, PRA, NisMoAu, Erebus and everyone else about how to be that good, that often..

Forda · 15 Dec 2014, 09:35 (Ref:3485160)

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Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Welcome to FPR's 'Whinge Of The Week' Here

..where losing the championship is everyone's fault.. except team's inability to find a setup that worked most of the year..

Blame blame blame...

It would seem you're whinging more about FPR, than FPR can be accused of whinging themselves!

Back to back Bathurst victories and third in the championship certainly isn't anything to be sneezed at; and indeed shows (1) there are no teams better than them for recent Bathurst results, and (2) there are about 13 teams doing worse than FPR in the championship.

Of course at the back of their minds would be the lack of certainty affecting their future; but the reality is FPR have merely been giving honest answers to the media, who are asking the questions.

Umai Naa · 15 Dec 2014, 10:23 (Ref:3485170)

Every driver, team, and bodyshell representing a roadcar, is fair game on here.

**GTRMagic** · 15 Dec 2014, 10:29 (Ref:3485172)

Interesting to see that WP seems to have changed from Kings Springs to Eibach Springs in the 2013/2014 off season.

Following 888 to some extent most likely, and experiences with the product there. Tekno is also an Eibach customer

Meantime FPR is still on Kings Springs..

Umai Naa · 15 Dec 2014, 10:35 (Ref:3485173)

Springs are only as good as the dampers that control them.

Are WP still using those flimsy Ohlins units?

**GTRMagic** · 15 Dec 2014, 10:47 (Ref:3485179)

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Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Springs are only as good as the dampers that control them.

Are WP still using those flimsy Ohlins units?

True enough, but do you choose to get with the strength in a control chassis design formula, or keep scratching your head? BJR is also an Eibach customer.

Werent WP rebuffed by 888 last year when they asked for a Sachs setup?

**GTRMagic** · 16 Dec 2014, 03:17 (Ref:3485396)

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