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Old 29 Oct 2012, 10:16 (Ref:3159430)   #126
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I'm fine, thanks Jonny, and looking forward to a winter of building and rebuilding

I was only concerned about date clashes with JDCC- possibly the only other series genuine GpA and Gp2 cars would be likely to consider.
Yes, as a simple (some might say very...) observer who is extremely keen for series catering for historic Group A to prosper, it is patently obviously needed on the historic calendar.

As JDog's series is going to have a couple of additional rounds on the HSCC calendar it would be perhaps fair to MRL to ensure the races don't clash, and i'm sure as we're not talking aboutn a million races here, that should be easily arrangeable.

My obvious thought is that where there are HSCC meetings where MRL/JDC is already 'on the programme' so to speak, if JDog's series might be on the same bill at one or both of those events, it might well attract more entrants for both series (by that I mean the cars up to 1985 which are fewest in number so far and in much need of encouragement to come out and play) and add value?

Naturally I am not suggesting for a second that this movement should be in place of existing traditional HSCC series but accomodated within the meetings as they are already run over 2-3 days anyway.
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 22:11 (Ref:3159797)   #127
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Any idea on noise as my M3 is VERY loud ?
Yes please don`t write 105db into your regulations.........
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Old 29 Oct 2012, 22:21 (Ref:3159803)   #128
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Naturally I am not suggesting for a second that this movement should be in place of existing traditional HSCC series but accomodated within the meetings as they are already run over 2-3 days anyway.
Not sure how this will work.

27 hr days perhaps,double shifts of marshals and other officials,extended curfews???


When will HSCC be confirming this new development?
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Old 30 Oct 2012, 06:37 (Ref:3159969)   #129
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M3 loud is good loud.....

I wouldn't hold out hopes of high noise limit unless the races are at venues that already have a noisy day or whole meeting.

So that could mean Donington Historic (that HSCC ran for others), Brands Superprix and Oulton Gold Cup. These meetings also had invited grids this year, so just replace one of those with Supertourers and job done.

Of the 'invited' grids, will 'E' Type challenge be going another year? If not there is space already.........

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Old 30 Oct 2012, 19:10 (Ref:3160265)   #130
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Just to let everyone know, we are now aligned with the HSCC.

This means they will be handling our race entries and to race in the series you will need HSCC membership. We will also be using their Historic Passports, which will be mandatory for all car's.

We plan to do at least two HSCC meeting's next season alongside the Silverstone Classic.

A real privilege to be recognized and affiliated with such an institution in historic motor racing.
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As foreigners, does this mean we also have to get HSCC membership and a Historic Passport?
We plan to do the Silverstone Classic only..
Allready looking forward to be there again!
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Old 30 Oct 2012, 21:26 (Ref:3160309)   #131
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Any idea on noise as my M3 is VERY loud ?
Jon, not sure yet...The Classic for sure is full noise

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Yes, as a simple (some might say very...) observer who is extremely keen for series catering for historic Group A to prosper, it is patently obviously needed on the historic calendar.

As JDog's series is going to have a couple of additional rounds on the HSCC calendar it would be perhaps fair to MRL to ensure the races don't clash, and i'm sure as we're not talking aboutn a million races here, that should be easily arrangeable.

My obvious thought is that where there are HSCC meetings where MRL/JDC is already 'on the programme' so to speak, if JDog's series might be on the same bill at one or both of those events, it might well attract more entrants for both series (by that I mean the cars up to 1985 which are fewest in number so far and in much need of encouragement to come out and play) and add value?

Naturally I am not suggesting for a second that this movement should be in place of existing traditional HSCC series but accommodated within the meetings as they are already run over 2-3 days anyway.
Chunterer, glad you are keen. It was real dream come true to see so many genuine cars on the grid at Silverstone, i hope we can keep the momentum going....the Group A guys i have spoken with are very excited....

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Yes please don`t write 105db into your regulations.........
Alex, i hope not....really hope you can join us next season...

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Not sure how this will work.

27 hr days perhaps,double shifts of marshals and other officials,extended curfews???


When will HSCC be confirming this new development?
Robyn, i dont decide time tables race lengths etc etc, we have been invited to link up with a fantastic club and i am very excited to see what next season brings. They will issue a press release shortly im sure.

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M3 loud is good loud.....

I wouldn't hold out hopes of high noise limit unless the races are at venues that already have a noisy day or whole meeting.

So that could mean Donington Historic (that HSCC ran for others), Brands Superprix and Oulton Gold Cup. These meetings also had invited grids this year, so just replace one of those with Supertourers and job done.

Of the 'invited' grids, will 'E' Type challenge be going another year? If not there is space already.........

Mike....not just Supertourers!! They are only a small part of a fantastic field of cars (inc a certain Prodrive Mondeo baiting MK1 Escort...).

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As foreigners, does this mean we also have to get HSCC membership and a Historic Passport?
We plan to do the Silverstone Classic only..
Allready looking forward to be there again!
Jan, ill check but if you are just doing the one meeting i think HSCC weekend membership was included in the entry this year. Ill contact you by email with more details.
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Old 31 Oct 2012, 03:16 (Ref:3160455)   #132
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Very glad to see a series for GENUINE Group A Touring Cars.

Surely, if Australia can manage it, then England with it's much bigger population base should be able to do it too.
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Old 31 Oct 2012, 05:36 (Ref:3160470)   #133
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I don't think that entry fees should be based on the perceived wealth (or othewise) of entrants or potential entrants. There is a direct cost which is largely made up of 'circuit hire' or 'track time', which is (or should be?) the same for all.
Surely, for a promoted meeting, which generates substantial public spectator revenue, the motive should be to attract the best possible entry, regardless of the wealth of the entrants.
In Australia, the historic race meeting promoters tend to use the same budget model. The cost of staging the event, track hire, insurance/permits, secretarial/admin, official's lunches, equipment rentals etc. are covered by the entry fees and any gate or sponsorship is profit for the organisers.

That way, if the pre-event costings are accurate and worst case scenario, there is no sponsorship and no one turns up to watch, the organisers still break even.
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Old 31 Oct 2012, 06:59 (Ref:3160487)   #134
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Very glad to see a series for GENUINE Group A Touring Cars.

Surely, if Australia can manage it, then England with it's much bigger population base should be able to do it too.
Absolutely David....i have looked at your series over there and it is hugely impressive, both in quality and quantity of grids. Also from what i read the eligibility/scrutineering side of things is strictly policed....this is exactly what we are aiming for.

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Of the 'invited' grids, will 'E' Type challenge be going another year? If not there is space already.........

It's official, ETC will run again next year. They're teasing us with talk of a couple of new circuits.
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It's official, ETC will run again next year. They're teasing us with talk of a couple of new circuits.
Pleased to hear that it is continuing, Colin. Couple of new circuits may leave space at other meetings!

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