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24 Jun 2014, 14:17 (Ref:3425936) | #1 | ||
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Toward the title 2014
Apparently it's a bit silly to speak about who can get the title this season. We all "know" it is going to be for a Merc driver. Ok, that's true (?). But we can look how far the rest of the field are in the title chase. And, of course we can look how significant is the gap between those "two good old friends", Nico and Lewis.
The above paragraph is just a justification for putting stats, if it was needed ;-) For example, how about the gap inpoints with Rosberg, the current leader? The following table shows info about those gaps: Code:
DRV PTS GAP G1R ROS 165 HAM 136 29 7.8 Still not difficult RIC 83 82 21.9 Very difficult ALO 79 86 23.0 Very difficult VET 60 105 28.1 Unlikely HUL 59 106 28.3 Unlikely TEAM PTS GAP G1R MER 301 RBR 143 158 42.2 Mostly unlikely FER 98 203 54.3 Unlikely FOR 87 214 57.2 Unlikely The key point is the G1R column. It shows the equivalent gap if there was just one (normal) race to go. In the calculations I'm taking in account the (infamous) double points in the final race. So G1R > 25 is virtually impossible to overcome, and, in my past experience, G1R > 10 is difficult to overcome. Main points IMO:
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24 Jun 2014, 14:31 (Ref:3425943) | #2 | |
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I see...
So if Rosberg retires at Silverstone, and Hamilton wins, and Riccardo and Alonso finish second and third, that restores to some degree, balance to the battle for the championship. But if Hamilton retires and Rosberg wins that is going to make it difficult for everyone... Last edited by Teretonga; 24 Jun 2014 at 14:36. |
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24 Jun 2014, 17:40 (Ref:3425991) | #3 | ||
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Yeah.
If Rosberg wins and Lewis retires, Hamilton will have a difficult job to be WDC, and the rest will have it virtually impossible. If Nico retires and Hamilton wins, it will be pretty much 50/50 for them. If Ricciardo and Alonso get a lot of points, it will still be very difficult for them! The mountain to climb is so big that they are going to need several "miraculous" results to have a reasonable chance. Let's elaborate that last point. Let's imagine the most positive scenario for Ricciardo or Alonso: NR retires in the next races, Ricciardo will need to win 2 races in the next two races (and another good results against Rosberg) to be in a not difficult position for the title. Alonso would need three wins with three NR retirements, in the next three races to not be in a difficult position. I just mean "not difficult position" , but their chances would still be relatively small. And it is not taking in account Hamilton! |
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24 Jun 2014, 17:43 (Ref:3425992) | #4 | |
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Ricciardo and Alonso are battling for the Top 3.
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25 Jun 2014, 01:31 (Ref:3426117) | #5 | ||
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Yay!
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12 Jul 2014, 02:09 (Ref:3433059) | #6 | ||
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Evolution of the points gap to the leader along the season (by now). The graph shows the graduation between a no important gap to a difficult one or one virtually impossible to surpass. As the season advances, less and less drivers are in a likely position to contend for the title.
Represented drivers are Rosberg, Hamilton, Ricciardo, Alonso, Botas, Vettel and Hulkenberg. Colors are gray, blue, red, black and orange for the teams, with the natural assignment (well, black=Williams). Note that Rosberg is the dashed gray line at the bottom. Every no Mercedes driver is practically out of the reasonable zone, but Ricciardo and Alonso try to hold somehow. Hamilton has been rebounding upward and downward due to his several "events". |
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12 Jul 2014, 10:50 (Ref:3433146) | #7 | |
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The championship fight is wide open to only Hamilton and Rosberg, and given that half season is ahead of us, including the 50 point Abu Dhabi race, _anything_ can happen.
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22 Aug 2014, 11:06 (Ref:3446205) | #8 | ||
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Situation after Hungary, just before the post summer "half" part of the season.
Gaps in points (respect to the leader) and equivalent gap if it were just one race to go. In terms of probability, the general rule is: a 10 point one-race-gap has a probability of about 10% to overcome it, a 25 point one-race-gap has a probability of about 1% to overcome it. Code:
PTS GAP 1GAP PRB ROS 202 HAM 191 11 3.3 46% RIC 131 71 21.4 1.8% ALO 115 87 26.2 0% BOT 95 107 32.3 0% VET 88 114 34.4 0% The next table shows the probability of every driver against each other in terms of getting a better score at the end of the season. It was also got using the type of simulations formerly said. Code:
ROS HAM RIC ALO BOT VET ROS --- 54% 100% 100% 100% 100% HAM 46% --- 96% 100% 100% 100% RIC 0% 4% --- 75% 95% 100% ALO 0% 0% 25% --- 92% 98% BOT 0% 0% 5% 8% --- 59% VET 0% 0% 0% 2% 41% --- All those simulations suppose the status essentially will not change. If Red Bull betters respecting Mercedes, then their probabilities could increase, but it could worsen and then their probabilities would decrease. So, the probabilities in the tables are the expected central probabilities, taking in account the different scenarios. |
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22 Aug 2014, 21:13 (Ref:3446351) | #9 | ||
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Table of probabilities of outscoring at the end of the season between (main) teams.
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MER RBR FER WIL FOR MCL MER --- 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% RBR 0% --- 100% 100% 100% 100% FER 0% 0% --- 67% 99% 93% WIL 0% 0% 33% --- 97% 93% FOR 0% 0% 1% 3% --- 58% MCL 0% 0% 7% 7% 42% --- In short, WTC is now in a boring state,with just minor battles (FER-WIL and FOR-MCL). |
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5 Sep 2014, 00:40 (Ref:3450398) | #10 | ||
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Updating after Spa.
Probabilities of every driver outscoring every other driver at the end of the season: Code:
ROS HAM RIC ALO BOT VET ROS --- 87% 98% 100% 100% 100% HAM 13% --- 79% 100% 100% 100% RIC 2% 21% --- 92% 94% 100% ALO 0% 0% 8% --- 70% 93% BOT 0% 0% 6% 30% --- 60% VET 0% 0% 0% 7% 40% --- Code:
MER RBR FER WIL FOR MCL MER --- 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% RBR 0% --- 100% 100% 100% 100% FER 0% 0% --- 70% 94% 99% WIL 0% 0% 30% --- 92% 94% MCL 0% 0% 6% 8% --- 44% FOR 0% 0% 1% 6% 56% --- Drivers:
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5 Sep 2014, 01:38 (Ref:3450409) | #11 | ||
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Gap evolution through the season (so far).
The vertical axis means the gap transformed to be the equivalent gap if there was only one race to go (one race with normal points :-) ). The dashed lines means a 10% and 1% of probability of outscoring the top driver. Colors (more or less obvious): Gray: mcl, Blue: rbr, Red: fer, Black: wil. Dashed line means the second driver in the team. |
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6 Sep 2014, 20:00 (Ref:3450842) | #12 | ||
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Thanks Schummy, really interesting analysis here, different to what the media give. Thanks for taking the time to post it
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7 Sep 2014, 15:28 (Ref:3451041) | #13 | ||
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Thanks, awrb . I hope to put the update for Monza soon. This is becoming an interesting end of season in several fronts!
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7 Sep 2014, 18:17 (Ref:3451079) | #14 | ||
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Good work Schummy!
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8 Sep 2014, 00:12 (Ref:3451138) | #15 | ||
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Thank you!
Update after Monza. Code:
PTS GAP 1GAP ROS 238 HAM 216 22 7.3 RIC 166 72 24.0 BOT 122 116 38.7 The matrix of probabilities of beating each other driver, according to some simulations is: Code:
ROS HAM RIC BOT ALO VET ROS --- 88% 98% 100% 100% 100% HAM 12% --- 94% 100% 100% 100% RIC 2% 6% --- 95% 98% 100% BOT 0% 0% 5% --- 49% 74% ALO 0% 0% 2% 51% --- 79% VET 0% 0% 0% 26% 21% --- Teams: Code:
MER RBR WIL FER MCL FOR MER --- 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% RBR 0% --- 100% 100% 100% 100% WIL 0% 0% --- 73% 96% 100% FER 0% 0% 27% --- 94% 99% MCL 0% 0% 4% 6% --- 43% FOR 0% 0% 0% 1% 57% --- Williams and Ferrari go on fighting 3rd/4th, but now Williams has the advantage. McLaren and Force still fight for 5th/6th (in very equilibrated terms). There is a minor chance of MCL reaching 3rd/4th positions, a lot harder for FOR. |
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8 Sep 2014, 00:31 (Ref:3451140) | #16 | ||
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And now the evolution graph. It represents the probability of beating Rosberg in the championship.
Hamilton's wins has not done a huge impression, it mostly avoided him to worsening his chances. He is just a bit better than before, but he is in his 2nd worse position since the start of the season. Now he has similar chances to when he lost in Austria. Ricciardo is fighting to scape of the "dreadful" unlikely zone. It is astonishing he is still in (relative) contention for the title. Last edited by Schummy; 8 Sep 2014 at 00:50. Reason: Adding commentary |
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24 Sep 2014, 18:55 (Ref:3457299) | #17 | ||
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Update after Singapore, only 5 races to go, although it is equivalent to 8 normal races because of the double points in last race.
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PTS GAP 1GAP HAM 241 ROS 238 3 1.1 RIC 181 60 21.2 ALO 133 108 38.2 VET 124 117 41.4 BOT 122 119 42.1 HAM and ROS are essentially tied. RIC is still in (very difficult) contention. The rest are practically out of the picture in probabilistic terms. The following table shows the probability of each driver outscoring each other driver. Code:
HAM ROS RIC ALO VET BOT HAM --- 55% 94% 100% 100% 100% ROS 45% --- 97% 100% 100% 100% RIC 6% 3% --- 99% 100% 100% ALO 0% 0% 1% --- 67% 67% VET 0% 0% 0% 33% --- 52% BOT 0% 0% 0% 33% 48% ---
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PTS GAP 1GAP MER 479 MER RBR 305 174 61.5 WIL 187 292 103.2 FER 178 301 FOR 117 362 MCL 111 368 MER RBR WIL FER FOR MCL MER --- 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% RBR 0% --- 100% 100% 100% 100% WIL 0% 0% --- 63% 100% 98% FER 0% 0% 37% --- 99% 98% FOR 0% 0% 0% 1% --- 67% MCL 0% 0% 2% 2% 33% ---
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9 Oct 2014, 12:52 (Ref:3462535) | #18 | ||
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Updating after Japan:
Probability of each driver beating each other driver in the WDC: Code:
HAM ROS RIC VET ALO BOT HAM --- 68 100 100 100 100 ROS 32 --- 97 100 100 100 RIC 0 3 --- 100 100 100 VET 0 0 0 --- 64 64 ALO 0 0 0 36 --- 53 BOT 0 0 0 36 47 ---
Same for Teams: Code:
MER RBR WIL FER FOR MCL MER --- 100 100 100 100 100 RBR 0 --- 100 100 100 100 WIL 0 0 --- 87 100 100 FER 0 0 13 --- 99 97 FOR 0 0 0 1 --- 56 MCL 0 0 0 3 44 ---
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18 Oct 2014, 09:36 (Ref:3466151) | #19 | |
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The Perez-Hulkenberg battle is going pretty much as I thought it looked. Perez is looking impressive in the end, alongside Nico who is also impressive. Perez was also fairly even with Button I thought, who is also a very good driver. F1 is full of them.
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