IMSA: USCR 2018 - Page 22

hondafan37 · 18 Jul 2017, 19:13 (Ref:3752538)

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Originally Posted by Articus

This is absolutely HUGE for american sports car racing. Joest Mazda and Penske Acura vs the Cadillacs. and ESM Nissans getting there ducks in a row (change all the drivers bar Derani...). The history books are going to be rewritten next year and it is going to be absolutely titanic!

Yes is fantastic!!! The ALMS is back!!!

MaskedRacer · 18 Jul 2017, 19:25 (Ref:3752550)

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Originally Posted by hondafan37

Yes is fantastic!!! The ALMS is back!!!

Can make the claim it is better because the GT categories were not super strong back then. 2007/2008 which was the peak of the ALMS LMP days yes, but that was when GT1 was dying.

The peak of GT racing in ALMS were the last couple of years of it in 2012/2013. That has carried through to today with GTLM and GTD. Although Dodge Viper, Flying Lizard, and Falken are missed greatly.

We are in a golden age of GT racing when you take into account GTLM and GT3 racing world wide

fieldodreams79 · 18 Jul 2017, 19:40 (Ref:3752563)

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Originally Posted by HighParker

It is unfortunate for those planning to attend one of the remaining three races with Prototypes in 2017 who now won't be seeing cars that had been expected to run the full season. I'd be annoyed if it happened before I saw them at Mosport.

I agree some with folks hoping to see this car in it's (now) past state, as I've looked forward to seeing cars all year only to have the Road Atlanta essess or T12 take them out in an early session, not to return to the track for the rest of the event. That seems worse and this more of a bummer for the team staff, unless retained.

These things tend to happen sportscar racing, is what I am saying.

Akrapovic · 18 Jul 2017, 19:44 (Ref:3752566)

All the Mazda press stuff is saying 13 class wins at Sebring. When were these? I only had a quick look through Wikipedia but didn't see any. Group C?

Bcarr6 · 18 Jul 2017, 19:58 (Ref:3752571)

Anyone reckon Nissan might want to look at giving a little more support to ESM now Honda and Mazda are going to be serious movers?

**Adam43** · 18 Jul 2017, 19:58 (Ref:3752572)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

All the Mazda press stuff is saying 13 class wins at Sebring. When were these? I only had a quick look through Wikipedia but didn't see any. Group C?

Whatever the RX7 was in during the 80s?

Edit: GTU. I won't pretend to know any more than that.

fieldodreams79 · 18 Jul 2017, 20:17 (Ref:3752577)

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Originally Posted by Akrapovic

All the Mazda press stuff is saying 13 class wins at Sebring. When were these? I only had a quick look through Wikipedia but didn't see any. Group C?

9 according to this, fwiw:
https://sebringraceway.com/images/hi...erformance.pdf

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Whatever the RX7 was in during the 80s?

Edit: GTU. I won't pretend to know any more than that.

Correct. RX-7s competed at the old airfield from 1979 to 1994 in GTU.

Also, Mazda powered IMSA GTP Lites took class wins in Argo and Royale chassises in addition to Jim Downing's Kudzu!

EDIT:
Feel free to get lost in this with me!
http://www.racingsportscars.com/race...?track=sebring

**skycafe** · 18 Jul 2017, 20:46 (Ref:3752588)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

Whatever the RX7 was in during the 80s?

Edit: GTU. I won't pretend to know any more than that.

Yes, IMSA GTU and GTO (I don't remember Mazda winning GTO at Sebring), plus Camel Lights, which was smaller GTP cars.

I have to look, but that may include a TU victory with a Mazda Cosmo in '76

I see FoD has also posted much the same thing

Speed-King · 18 Jul 2017, 20:47 (Ref:3752590)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

All the Mazda press stuff is saying 13 class wins at Sebring. When were these? I only had a quick look through Wikipedia but didn't see any. Group C?

IMSA GTU mostly.... maybe a few as engine suppliers in IMSA Lites.

**Adam43** · 18 Jul 2017, 20:56 (Ref:3752594)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

EDIT:
Feel free to get lost in this with me!
http://www.racingsportscars.com/race...?track=sebring

I have a new favourite sports car. The Morris Minor that came 15th in 1952. Like Mazda it was a class winner.

**skycafe** · 18 Jul 2017, 21:03 (Ref:3752597)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

I have a new favourite sports car. The Morris Minor that came 15th in 1952. Like Mazda it was a class winner.

Amazing, ins't it? I love the old results, and those times.

**Adam43** · 18 Jul 2017, 21:13 (Ref:3752603)

There are a million classes. A field that half of which don't look competitive. And, where's the Pro-Am?

We are both spoilt now and complain about nothing and also miss out and don't see what is really good.

**skycafe** · 18 Jul 2017, 21:21 (Ref:3752604)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

We are both spoilt now and complain about nothing and also miss out and don't see what is really good.

Yes. The atmosphere. The sounds, the smells. The sort of lottery aspect of cars the survive to get a result in an endurance race.

chernaudi · 18 Jul 2017, 21:35 (Ref:3752613)

I do feel that Joest is a big upgrade. SpeedSource had success in GT racing, but since then they seemed to be out of their element. That being said, Joest and Multimatic are still saddled with an engine that's still got somewhat questionable reliability outside of a 6 hour race, not to mention a chassis that in ACO spec has proven to be the worst of the current lot.

I wonder if Joest and Mazda will try and switch chassis, or do Joest and Multimatic think they can right the ship on the Riley chassis?

Bcarr6 · 18 Jul 2017, 22:11 (Ref:3752620)

This could well be PWC news, But CTSCC runners MIA have just taken delivery of a McLaren 650s GT3. Could step up from GS to GTD next year? Or PWC maybe

Matt · 18 Jul 2017, 23:14 (Ref:3752631)

http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints...=&limitstart=1

Page 2 quote from Juttner:

Quote:

"DPi is a much better prospective than anything else we could do," he said. "What about the WEC? Porsche is done. Toyota is done. Audi's pulled out. So what should we do? Buy two LMP2s and look for pay drivers? Not a chance."

Bombshell!

Articus · 18 Jul 2017, 23:41 (Ref:3752640)

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Originally Posted by Matt

http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints...=&limitstart=1

Page 2 quote from Juttner:

Bombshell!

jimclark · 18 Jul 2017, 23:46 (Ref:3752641)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Articus

This is absolutely HUGE for american sports car racing. Joest Mazda and Penske Acura vs the Cadillacs. and ESM Nissans getting there ducks in a row (change all the drivers bar Derani...). The history books are going to be rewritten next year and it is going to be absolutely titanic!

Even I've got hope (wonders never cease, ehhh???

).....'fingers crossed.

(I would have chosen a different term than "Titanic" though....'scary.

)

YZFrider · 18 Jul 2017, 23:55 (Ref:3752642)

Perhaps Panoz is the new DPi rumored

**joeb** · 19 Jul 2017, 00:16 (Ref:3752644)

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Originally Posted by YZFrider

Perhaps Panoz is the new DPi rumored

Lol, I wish!

broadrun96 · 19 Jul 2017, 00:35 (Ref:3752648)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints...=&limitstart=1

Page 2 quote from Juttner:

Bombshell!

Or that is in reference to the fact that both teams are done in house so there's nothing for Joest to do?

carbsmith · 19 Jul 2017, 00:48 (Ref:3752649)

It's saying they already having teams running them so there's nothing for Joest, yes.

jimclark · 19 Jul 2017, 00:48 (Ref:3752650)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

Yes, IMSA GTU and GTO (I don't remember Mazda winning GTO at Sebring), plus Camel Lights, which was smaller GTP cars.

I have to look, but that may include a TU victory with a Mazda Cosmo in '76

I see FoD has also posted much the same thing

'Just perused IMSA results and no GTO win for Mazda. The only classes in the 12 in '76 were GTO and GTU.

(edit: The Cosmo finished 25th overall, 9th in GTU)

A bunch of GTU over the years; and two Lights wins: '85, Downing and Maffucci in an Argo/Mazda, and '86, Rothbart, Meyer, and Kline in a Royale/Mazda.

(edit II: Sorry field, I see your post now. I missed the Kudzu win and ain't goin' back thru...what year was that? Thanks.)

HORNDAWG · 19 Jul 2017, 01:11 (Ref:3752651)

What about Dyson winning P-1 in '12? On Dunlops!

L.P.

jimclark · 19 Jul 2017, 01:26 (Ref:3752652)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

What about Dyson winning P-1 in '12? On Dunlops!

L.P.

Nice....I only looked thru '98.
'Fergot about that one.

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