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Excluding their Hungary points, presumably? If they hadn't been disqualified from the WCC, McLaren would have appealed that punishment, and anybody with common sense would have given them the points.
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Except that they weren't disqualified at that point (August 5). That came 1 full month later.
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What does it really matter who's car is chosen as car of the year.. When you have won both championships why would you care?
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Red, does this really matter? Born Racers point was if you total the drivers points. Obviously you chose to take the WCC points as they were. We are talking hypothetical points (no pun intended) so what is the point (pun intended) in everyone being so obtuse - it is clear what everyone else means.
The actual real outcome was that Ferrari won the championship; the other sides are interesting to a point, but repeatedly stating it and ignoring others points is tedious. Making the point that Ferrari actually won the WCC hence it is a good car is valid. Making the point that the McLaren drivers cumulative points was more than any other team's pair is valid when justifying that McLaren had a good car. I don't feel we need to waste everyones time by dogmatically just repeating the minute dissection of this. We are all clever enough to understand the point. Further, there seems to be a general method of picking on one small point in someone's post to disprove it and as a consequence miss the general point. People start looking stupid when they do this. Are we going to discuss anything, or just keep repeating ourselves? |
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While I understand your natural and patriotic anger, I couldn't help pointing out that Montezemolo's comments aren't quite far off. Luca di Montezemolo is angry that, despite McLaren's antics, FIA and Bernie did nothing albeit a fine. Actually Mr. Ecclestone, Bernard Charles did: he blocked a complete DQ because FINALLY England (or Great Britain if you prefer) had a driver contending for the title and that was good for the spectacle. On top of that, McLaren won a useless and insignificant popularity contest of a popular British magazine (English if you prefer). Montezemolo has a right to disagree and has the arguments to do it too. But whatever. |
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henk4, not cripitic, just pointing out that people of all opinions have taken it off topic. Poorly written I agree, sorry.
red, not up to anything. Although you seem to have picked one small point and ran with it there. Everyone: keep on topic. I suppose that is what I am up to. Patronising posting will not be tolerated, dismissing peoples opinions because of nationality will not be tolerated. It is a shame that this needs spelling out again. Discuss the topic. |
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So.. means let's get back to Mclaren's apology!
Mclaren knows that they have been naughty and caught with their hands in the candy jar. FIA decides that, like it or not, it's time to end embarrassing the team further and cancelled the meeting. Ferrari figured that they have done what they could to seek justice. And all in time for Christmas! And whoever started the "Luca and the English" thing, will have all his 2007 posts removed until he issues an apology. And all their posts will be scrutinized in 2008, for any signs of 'Ferrari' content Last edited by Gt_R; 23 Dec 2007 at 16:30. |
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Well done for just repeating something that has already been said and demonstrating that the thread is going nowhere.
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