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2 Jun 2003, 09:32 (Ref:617524)
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Teams 3rd Drivers...who?
So why wasn't Sato there for BAR when they needed him?
Which of the teams do have their 3rd drivers standing by until Sat. night and who uses who... |
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2 Jun 2003, 09:48 (Ref:617535)
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I think that you can only change driver before Saturday morning practice. Button crashed during the Saturday morning session meaning that Sato would have been thrown straight into a 1 lap qualifying session...
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2 Jun 2003, 09:50 (Ref:617537)
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Most of the teams do...
these are the ones I can remember: McLaren - Wurz (I think De La Rosa is test driver) Ferrari - Burti (? - or is it Badoer) Renault - McNish BAR - Sato *cough*- Ant Davidson is the test driver |
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2 Jun 2003, 09:52 (Ref:617538)
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2 Jun 2003, 09:54 (Ref:617540)
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Did you see the interiew with Geoff Willis(?) they aksed him why wasn't Sato going to drive and while looking uncomfortable said somethign along the lines of 'I don't think I should answer that, you'll have to ask Richards'
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2 Jun 2003, 09:55 (Ref:617541)
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Ferrari - Massa
McLaren - Wurz Williams - Gene Renault - McNish Toyota - Zonta BAR - Sato |
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2 Jun 2003, 09:58 (Ref:617543)
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I know Wurz, Gene and McNish turn up to all the GPs, we know Sato doesn't, what about Zonta and Massa?
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2 Jun 2003, 10:31 (Ref:617568)
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Yep
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2 Jun 2003, 10:44 (Ref:617582)
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Quote Asp:"Ferrari - Burti (? - or is it Badoer)"
Burti has left Ferrari at the end of last year, replaced by Massa. Massa is also third driver for Sauber Petronas, if in any unfortunate situation that Sauber find themselves requiring his services. Massa turns up for races as well. In fact, he was at Malaysia and Brazil (according to Formula 1 Magazine) to learn from Rubens and Michael. And didn't Burti replace Eddie in Jaguar at Austria 2000 at the last moment when Eddie pulled out of the race?? |
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2 Jun 2003, 11:45 (Ref:617653)
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Its crazy not to have a standby driver. Richards and BAR dropped the ball on this one.
Then again, would you want Sato to go out in a heavy car that he hasn't driven, to qualify, in Monaco, with his record.....hmmm. Well I would. |
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2 Jun 2003, 13:05 (Ref:617724)
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I don't geddit - Davidson was at almost all the GPs for BAR last year.
I reckon something political is going on. Perhaps JV feels (rightly) threatened by Sato being around and has got the team to keep him away. But then why not use Davidson since he and JV get along well? perhaps Honda wouldn't like it... Hmm no wonder willis kept his gob shut - I reckon its quite complicated and sensitive. |
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2 Jun 2003, 13:14 (Ref:617734)
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i doubt that villeneuve has the power to keep sato away...richards wants to get rid of JV, why should he kepp sato away?
but i´m really curious for an explanation of BAR 
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2 Jun 2003, 13:23 (Ref:617741)
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it means 'British American Racing'
sorry.... |
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2 Jun 2003, 13:23 (Ref:617742)
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It was indeed strange not letting Sato drive, as far as I know, all 3rd drivers are present on race weekends.
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2 Jun 2003, 13:40 (Ref:617769)
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Maybe Richards didn't want Sato to race because he thought one wrecked car for the weekend was enough.
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2 Jun 2003, 13:51 (Ref:617784)
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From what I know Sato goes to all the races but leaves after qualifying. I dont know if he would have even been allowed to race.
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2 Jun 2003, 14:23 (Ref:617820)
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I don't think it has anything to do with Jacques, and everything to do with the way Honda shoved Sato down BAR's throat when they already had a first-rate third driver.
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2 Jun 2003, 14:27 (Ref:617826)
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Badoer, not Massa, is Ferrari's reserve/third driver and is at all the races. Massa is the test/fourth driver
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2 Jun 2003, 14:38 (Ref:617841)
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Nope, Massa is the official reserve driver.
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2 Jun 2003, 14:41 (Ref:617849)
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Yes but who is the reserve official driver and what about the official reserve test driver and the reserve official test driver - thats without going to the unofficial reserve third driver or the reserve official fourth driver.....
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2 Jun 2003, 14:44 (Ref:617850)
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yes, and who is deputy to the assistant reserve test driver who deputises for the reserve test driver when the reserve test driver is deputising for the test driver who is deputising for the official reserve driver - or is that the official assistant reserve driver...
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2 Jun 2003, 17:14 (Ref:618047)
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2 Jun 2003, 17:35 (Ref:618083)
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I heard Sato was away on his holidays!!!!!!!!!!!
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2 Jun 2003, 18:28 (Ref:618156)
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Surely Badoer would get preference over Massa, seeing as he's been testing Ferraris since about '97...
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2 Jun 2003, 18:38 (Ref:618171)
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Look. Button had already totalled a car, costing BAR about a zillion pound. Would you trust Sato in a race heavy car on a qualifier.
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