2013 French HGV ECOTAX

[Al Weyman]

Another good reason (apart from the survival of UK motorsport) to concerntrate your racing in the UK.

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Another good reason (apart from the survival of UK motorsport) to concerntrate your racing in the UK.

It wont affect us Al, only those wealthy racers such as Rowley, Bell and McKay.

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

It wont affect us Al, only those wealthy racers such as Rowley, Bell and McKay.

It must have been your double drinking the Larkins at Spa Tim

[delta]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

It wont affect us Al, only those wealthy racers such as Rowley, Bell and McKay.

Who you calling wealthy.

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by delta

Who you calling wealthy.

Don't deny it, I've seen that posh tractor you've got.

[zefarelly]

So to race at Dijopn, and get round the threat the camper goes solo . . . the racer goes on the trailer towed by a smokey old 2CV. It really is a load of old ******** isn't it. . . .

To be honest, I'd happily spned £50 to avoid the M6/M1/M40/M42 any race weekend, so a euro getaway is always going to be on the cards

[terence]

Originally Posted by Al Weyman

Another good reason (apart from the survival of UK motorsport) to concerntrate your racing in the UK.

There's the crux Al,tried giving something back only to get thrown it back in my face,so basically, ******** to it,should have made this move years ago.

Happy new Year Everyone.

[FISCracer]

Originally Posted by DaveGT6

So if I have understood this correctly, a motorhome towing a car trailer would be exempt?

Dave I think you might find that a Defender is considered a commercial vehicle too.........at least it will be by the Gendarmerie when this comes in

I guess it will only be a matter of time before they apply it to all vehicles, so the large 4x4 with a racebox or trailer will get hit too

[Mike Bell]

Just found this release on t'internet that suggests not all set in stone!

ECOTAX

It would also appear that there has been a court case concerning who the contract to run the proposed system was given to, and this has delayed introduction for 6 months.......

Only in France!

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Just found this release on t'internet that suggests not all set in stone!

ECOTAX

It would also appear that there has been a court case concerning who the contract to run the proposed system was given to, and this has delayed introduction for 6 months.......
Only in France!

good grief Mike, are you a regular reader of Tax-News ?

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

good grief Mike, are you a regular reader of Tax-News ?

Isn't everybody? No, is the answer, but I do use a search engine to try and keep up to date. My comment regarding a delay may not be accurate, as noticed later that the report I read was old.

Have spoken to a UK Transport support company about making sure am ready, even if the French are not......

[Peter Mallett]

It sounds a bit like the 60kph sticker. If it isn't required anywhere else in the EU then the French can't make it stick. Think Van Gend en Loos (look it up). Basically if a country tries to apply rules to non nationals, or the importation/free movement of goods it is in breach of what used to be, article 28, of the treaty.

[Clive Brown]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

It sounds a bit like the 60kph sticker. If it isn't required anywhere else in the EU then the French can't make it stick. Think Van Gend en Loos (look it up). Basically if a country tries to apply rules to non nationals, or the importation/free movement of goods it is in breach of what used to be, article 28, of the treaty.

Very good, Peter, and I'm sure 100% technically correct.

Now explain it to some Fascist pig of a gendarme (aren't they all?) at the side of some God-forsaken side road in the a$$hole of the Universe when it's ****ing down with rain and pitch dark.

[Peter Mallett]

Yes, that is the problem.

[Mike Bell]

It'll be OK, Clive. Peter is coming with me on first trip after the starting date, and will use his fluid French and legal knowledge to ensure our smooth passage along their road system....

[Peter Mallett]

My rates are very reasonable.

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Clive Brown

Very good, Peter, and I'm sure 100% technically correct.

Now explain it to some Fascist pig of a gendarme (aren't they all?) at the side of some God-forsaken side road in the a$$hole of the Universe when it's ****ing down with rain and pitch dark.

I got away with it once back in the 70s when I was pulled for speeding jn France towing a trailer.
The cop was more interested in the half naked female in the passenger seat

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

I got away with it once back in the 70s when I was pulled for speeding jn France towing a trailer.
The cop was more interested in the half naked female in the passenger seat

Got it! Ditch the previous plan- Norma Snockers it is then.....

Sorry Peter. Tough old world out there.

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Got it! Ditch the previous plan- Norma Snockers it is then.....

The "froggies" can't help it
I did pull the same trick with Mrs S years ago coming home from a party at 5am in Oxted Surrey, it worked then, but that's another story !

[Clive Brown]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

It'll be OK, Clive. Peter is coming with me on first trip after the starting date, and will use his fluid French and legal knowledge to ensure our smooth passage along their road system....

That's alright, then. I'll send you a cake with a file in it.

[terence]

Easy way around speeding tickets in France?Get insurance from AXA,worked for me a few times.Money saved in fines probaly outweighs the insurance.lol

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by terence bower

Easy way around speeding tickets in France?Get insurance from AXA,worked for me a few times.Money saved in fines probaly outweighs the insurance.lol

Yes Terry I have found that out as my nephew is married to a french girl who happens to work for AXA

[terence]

Perhaps I should point out that under no circumstances do I condone speeding on any road,whether it be on unrestricted roads or where ever you may be.There'll aways be someone who puts up a clip on youtube to prove it!lol

[midgetman]

Originally Posted by terence bower

Easy way around speeding tickets in France?Get insurance from AXA,worked for me a few times.Money saved in fines probaly outweighs the insurance.lol

Any chance of explaining that for those of us without a clue? What do AXA do, give you a "Cloak of Invisibility"? Automatically give false readings to Gatsos? Provide a car full of nubile young women to bribe the gendarmes with? Pray elucidate!

[terence]

Its French owned,the gendarmes seem to appreciate a Brit buying something French.
I have,in the past, been stopped,possibly for excessive kph,then asked for documents,documents inspected,OK Oui,you may go. That has happened on three separate occasions and all i can think of is that I've always had AXA insurance.