Who will withdraw the points from Willowbank??? (Merged x1) - Page 5

SSbaby · 21 Jul 2007, 08:17 (Ref:1968892)

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Originally Posted by TSR

Cam got sandwiched and has retired.

I laughed hard at his 'Wally' remark directed at JB's driving.

Cam was right though, to avoid the 'Wallys' you have to start further up the grid.

billy bigtime · 21 Jul 2007, 09:04 (Ref:1968912)

When Cam achieves as much as JB has in his career he can have his say, in the meantime he should keep his Holden trained mouth shut.

NAC · 21 Jul 2007, 09:11 (Ref:1968914)

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Originally Posted by billy bigtime

When Cam achieves as much as JB has in his career he can have his say, in the meantime he should keep his Holden trained mouth shut.

But we now have freedom of speech. He can officially say what he likes

stmorri · 21 Jul 2007, 09:59 (Ref:1968932)

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Originally Posted by SSbaby

Only 4 Walkinshaw cars representing Holden in the top ten during Qualifying. In other words, take the Walkinshaw cars out and qualifying would look like this...

1. Ford
2. Ford
3. Ford
4. Ford
5. Ford
6. Ford
7 Holden (Canto)
8. Ford
9. Holden (Holdsworth)
10. Holden (Owen)

And then there really would be a parity adjustment!......can't have ford winning by that many only Holden can do that!

STEALTHY · 21 Jul 2007, 10:12 (Ref:1968938)

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Originally Posted by stmorri

And then there really would be a parity adjustment!......can't have ford winning by that many only Holden can do that!

But thats 4 different ford teams, meaning the ford as a whole has an advantage over the holdens, if it wasn't for 2 holden teams pumping out better cars. see where this is going, right around in circles.

Seems to me after today, that everything is equal in the holden v ford stakes.

TheTaipan · 21 Jul 2007, 10:40 (Ref:1968952)

Gotta agree with Stealthy - the fords are a quicker car - and significantly so... EXCEPT for the TWR teams. The questions are over the TWR teams. Some very obvious rule exceptions are still being "addressed", how many other rules are being broken?

Can't deny the talen of the drivers and the teams supporting them, but there has to be something else?

Pro Racer · 21 Jul 2007, 12:02 (Ref:1968981)

well there was certainly as Came would say 'wally' incidents in the opening laps.

Cam to qualify ahead of the 'wallies' you have to have the car to do it shame you don't buddy seems you will be playing with the 'wallies' for a while.

would love to see Cam throw a 'wally' in during his 'expert comments' in the F1 coverage

.

IMO GRM are starting to show some good pace Canto ran well Lee was running well shame about whe DNF.

JR certainly does do average actually incert S

T, Jnr seemed dejected after DJR's apperent as Jnr would say 'balls up' in quali.

bestfit · 21 Jul 2007, 12:04 (Ref:1968984)

Doesn't "starting down among the Wallys" make you a Wally?

Dazz · 21 Jul 2007, 12:41 (Ref:1969005)

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Originally Posted by James63

Definently lost power...matthew white was oblivous to it though.

He was good under breaks, but off the corners and down the straights he was down on power...evidenced by the blocking he had to do to johnson on the finish straight.

They also missed the missed gear by Rick Kelly which allowed Wintebottom to plough into him.

I wonder if the hit had anything at all to do with Frosty's car going off song. I doubt it unless it knockod off a plug lead but you never know.

Anyway come next year these little opportunities will be gone thanks to the learner driver sequential shift option.

stmorri · 21 Jul 2007, 22:59 (Ref:1969515)

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Originally Posted by STEALTHY

But thats 4 different ford teams, meaning the ford as a whole has an advantage over the holdens, if it wasn't for 2 holden teams pumping out better cars. see where this is going, right around in circles.

Seems to me after today, that everything is equal in the holden v ford stakes.

Well, then that just goes to show that there is something wrong with the way they are officiating over parity. The system doesn't work! Bring in success ballast and then race by race the situation will equalise. But don't forget, this is a Ford test track and they still didn't win! So where's the advantage?

stmorri · 21 Jul 2007, 23:01 (Ref:1969516)

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Originally Posted by bestfit

Doesn't "starting down among the Wallys" make you a Wally?

I like your logic......Why didn't the rest of us think of that?

SSbaby · 21 Jul 2007, 23:57 (Ref:1969537)

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Originally Posted by stmorri

And then there really would be a parity adjustment!......can't have ford winning by that many only Holden can do that!

If the parity topic is revisited (like every time a Holden wins) the Fords should be slowed IF the Qualifying results are anything to go by.

Can't have a Ford winning? Well you do have a bunch of 'moral champions', that's enough.

Boxy · 22 Jul 2007, 00:47 (Ref:1969545)

Some obsevations after being trackside yesterday..

1: The HRT cars look bloody awesome in the flesh.
2: The Tasman cars DO NOT!. (they go as good as they look

)
3: That would have to be one of the biggest Saturday crowds I have ever seen there. (not sure about a record though

) Even met one chap who came down from Darwin by himself just to be there. Huge effort Mick.

4: Congrats to Wincup during qualifying. Left his mate in his wake again..
5: The traffic getting out is still a joke. That's one of the reasons why we stopped going on Sundays, but it seems just as bad on Saturdays now! Having plenty of roadworks around the area at this time certainly does'nt help!
6: Was great to have a quick chat with Seto. He seemed to be enjoying himself. He also told us that he will be driving with Pretty come enduro time..
7: The Jim Beam girls are HOT!!

Even with expensive ticket pricing (we pre-purchsed and saved $20 off the gate price), there seemed to be plenty of punters willing to part with their hard-earned. Anyone who says the V8's are not getting bigger need to get themselves trackside. The proof is in the puddin'. (at QR at least)

NAC · 22 Jul 2007, 01:56 (Ref:1969559)

Race 2

1. Tander
2. Whincup
3. Lowndes
4. Courtney
5. Davidson
6. Ingall
7. Winterbottom
8. Skaife
9. Morris
10. Holdsworth
11. Kelly T
12. Murphy
13. Richards J
14. Wilson
15. Canto
16. Kelly R
17. Bowe
18. McConville
19. Perkins
20. Gurr
21. Wills
22. Johnson
23. Jones A
24. Price
25. Ellery

DNF Weel
DNF Bargwanna
DNF Bright
DNF Owen
DNF Richards S

Rombles1 · 22 Jul 2007, 01:56 (Ref:1969560)

Race 2....

Tander
Whincup
Lowndes
Courtney
Davo
Ingall
Frosty
Skaife
Morris (!)
Holdsworth
Todd
Murph
J Richo
Max
Dino
Rick (in 16th!)

Dammit NAC you typed faster than me

TSR · 22 Jul 2007, 02:01 (Ref:1969562)

You both beat me, but I could not get onto this thread for some reason.

Rombles1 · 22 Jul 2007, 04:00 (Ref:1969583)

Anyone know what happened to Rick in R2?

NAC · 22 Jul 2007, 04:07 (Ref:1969585)

Got a drive through for drama at pit exit. A lot of go / stop / go / stop and then took out the cone

NAC · 22 Jul 2007, 04:14 (Ref:1969587)

My streaming has gone down again. Whats the yellow for??

NAC · 22 Jul 2007, 04:27 (Ref:1969590)

Well well both Kelly's with penalties this weekend. No more conspiracy theory

NAC · 22 Jul 2007, 04:38 (Ref:1969594)

Race 3

1. Tander
2. Lowndes
3. Whincup
4. Davidson
5. Winterbottom
6. Kelly R
7. Courtney
8. Murphy
9. Richards J
10. Ingall
11. Holdsworth
12. Perkins
13. Bowe
14. Canto
15. McConville
16. Morris
17. Price
18. Skaife
19. Kelly T
20. Gurr
21. Bargwanna

DNF Richards S
DNF Bright
DNF Ellery
DNF Wilson
DNF Weel
DNF Owen
DNF Wills
DNF Jones A
DNF Johnson

What the hell happened at the end. I only had live timing

TSR · 22 Jul 2007, 04:42 (Ref:1969596)

Race 3 results

P1 GARTH TANDER
P2 CRAIG LOWNDES
P3 JAMIE WINCUP
P4 WILL DAVIDSON
P5 MARK WINTERBOTTOM
P6 CRASH BANDICOOT
P7 JAMES COURTNEY
P8 POTATO HEAD
P9 JASON RICHARDS
P10 RUSSELL INGAL

Axeman444 · 22 Jul 2007, 04:51 (Ref:1969598)

bad way to do it, and annoying as he will no doubt get a drive through and he is in my fantasy team, but good to see JC was still going hard on the last lap and hoping to make a pass and pick up some more points.

goes to show the new points system is actually working, as i'm sure under the old system it would have been a case of maintaining station...

6.213km · 22 Jul 2007, 04:55 (Ref:1969602)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

bad way to do it, and annoying as he will no doubt get a drive through and he is in my fantasy team, but good to see JC was still going hard on the last lap and hoping to make a pass and pick up some more points.

goes to show the new points system is actually working, as i'm sure under the old system it would have been a case of maintaining station...

Under the old system, it would still have been a silly move - under the new system it is no different.

bestfit · 22 Jul 2007, 05:00 (Ref:1969605)

Anyone know what this was about?

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Release Date: 22/07/2007
SUMMARY OF PENALTIES

STEWARDS UPDATE 5: 1310hrs Sunday 22th July

Matters arising from Race 2:

After an investigation of an allegation that people connected with WPS Racing Pty Ltd were engaged in conduct that may reasonably be likely to bring the sport into disrepute in breach of Rule B6.5.4, the Team Manager admitted the offence and were fined $25,000.

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