Hills does the double at Winton

[marcus]

Quick question.

Does anybody know when or if the winton races will be shown on the box ?

[Buckshot]

Going with SBS's latest form, in order to ensure the program recieves maximum exposure they'll run it 3pm this Sunday right in the middle of the live Indy Car race on Channel 10.

Good on yas !

[racer69]

Didn't it say in AA that the PowerTour had taken over TOCA's contract on channel 7, so I presumed that seven will be showing the races.

[Morris 1100]

Tuesday night is my AA night

[D.R.T.]

DNQ, I found the results from the natsoft.com site. All qualifying and race results. I was informed that there was also going to be the Vectra, 2 Nissan Primera's and Malcom Rea's 2 Toyota Carina's were reportedly going to be there untill an engine in their transporter let them down on the way to Winton.
This looks very promising for the next round at Calder Park. Super Touring dying , no way.
I heard about the powertour being shown on channel 7 aswell.

[D.R.T.]

The 2 Toyota Carina's should bring in a huge crowd at Calder. Anyone planning on going to the Calder round of the PowerTour. I guess you would have think that Jim COrnish would be favourite at Calder, on the cars past record at Calder.

[Crash Test]

D.R.T.- either you have the driest wit of all time, or there is something terribly wrong...

Explain to me: the 2 carina's first of all getting to Calder, then pulling a crowd at Calder.

Also, the Vectra has a good record at Calder? Whaa?

You must realise that the Trucks regularly pull crowds which are bigger than what the Super Tourers ever could...

[racer69]

At least he's trying to be positive, and the field at Winton was ok, but the majority of the crowd would have been there for the Trucks.

On the Carina's, both were on there way to Winton (whether they actually would have raced or not though) but the transporter broke down.

John Pachos had previous committments so couldn't run the Vectra or the two Primera's.

At least the field for Calder looks promising

[Crash Test]

I know that is the story about the Carina, but does anyone really believe it? I've heard some absolutely corker things about that opperation over the years (if you want some dirt, send me an email ).... Having seen them turn up on the Satuday at Lakeside with two unprepared cars that wouldn't crank over (all this less than 100km from their base) I can only guess that the truck broke down in their driveway .

Saying that, Mal is a trier. I'm sure he do a lot better with some money...especially with equipment like super tourers...

[the man]

Did anyone see the Super Touring races on the box and was it any good racing. Better than the past years. Any spins or stuff like that?
Thanks
The Man

[D.R.T.]

Firstly crash, the Carinna's are big crowd pullers, they have legendary status with everyone around the globe, its just you never know whether their going to race, as you pointed out they can be their on the saturday and not show on race day, or not be their on the Saturday then be on the grid come race day.
And arh yes the Vectra, well at Calder in 1999 it was running third not to far behind Richo in the volvo and Morris in his BMW. The Vectra seems to go better in straght lines that in the corners, consdiering Calder is two drag strips joined, I say it will be a Vectra win. Who do you guys think will?

I belive the Super Tourers will be shown on SBS this weekend along with all the other support categories and some trucks from the powertour.

[DNQ]

Originally posted by D.R.T.
Firstly crash, the Carinna's are big crowd pullers, they have legendary status with everyone around the globe

What? Everyone around the globe??? Surely that's a trifle over the top...I mean, 70% of the Australian population hasn't heard of them, I'd say. And pulling crowds, I don't want to sound mean, but I doubt anyone extra would come for that...

[mtpanorama]

Originally posted by D.R.T.
Firstly crash, the Carinna's are big crowd pullers, they have legendary status with everyone around the globe,

I think there is only one person doing the "pulling" around here.

[aaaahhhhhhh]

I thought 2LT racing was dead. It seems to be harder to get rid of than Mark Skaife at plastic surgoen seeing about a nose job..........

[D.R.T.]

Why would you won't to get rid of 2 Litre racing ? It offers a diferent form of exciting racing, and usually has some great racing, even at Winton.
I take it you guys are Motorsport Developments fans ?

[Morris 1100]

I have never fallen asleep at a V8 race.

2 litres are not exciting. The races are parades where the front car is told to slow down and not pull away from the next car.
I have been to a drivers briefing where the drivers were told to do that.

How else can you explain Bathurst 1998?
How else can you explain most of the races?
How else can you explain John Henderson? He is not that good.

[Crash Test]

I have to agree with Morris here, I've seen some, oh what's the word....collusion, at Super Touring rounds before. Last season was the biggest farce ever.

Granted they had a good thing going there for a while, it is no longer a top level class, and that really isn't a problem, so long as it doesn't think that it is one.

But you are right on something, the more race meetings the better....we're going to get mighty lonely up here next year....

[Bomn]

If super tourers are so great they wouldn't have enough room on the grid for future tourers.

[racer69]

2000/2001 was a farce, but before that it was very competitive, 1999 was better than it was given credit for, and Bathurst 1998, that was anything BUT staged. If it was, would Rydell have qualified one and a half seconds faster than anyone else in the Top 10, and would the Volvo and Nissan have left everyone else behind during the race.

Now they are on the PowerTour, fields should improve, hopefully Pachos will get the Vectra and 2 Nissans to the next round. It certainly isn't top level at the moment though.

[marcus]

hmmmm..even at winton ???

gotta say it isnt called the action track for nothing

dont know about any "collusion" going on but Im sure to a degree it is happening ..but at the same time the cars are very interesting and it is sad to see its decline ..and watching them live is alot better than on Tv thats for sure ..even thought Winton wasnt that great in numbers i was impressed with the super tourers and from that little glimpse I had i hope they can improve their series and at least survive in these v8 glory grabbing days.

[mtpanorama]

Originally posted by Morris 1100
How else can you explain John Henderson? He is not that good.

Or Jim Cornish.
I thought this was going to be his year. He has discovered that the Mondeos are still running, so he'll have to wait until next year (if it is still going ) to buy his championship.

[D.R.T.]

Morris 1100, passing out and falling asleep, generally are the same thing.
Also how was Bathurst 1998, an organised race?

[Morris 1100]

Originally posted by D.R.T.
Also how was Bathurst 1998, an organised race?

What do you really believe that the Nissan could catch the Volvo after that distance and being an official at the meeting I was not allowed to go to sleep no matter how boring the 2 litre heaps of ******************* got.

[racer69]

Can you really see Rydell or Neal staging a race. Also, as i said before, would someone who staged a race allow the polesitter to qualify 1.5 second faster. And on the Nissan, it was the fastest car in the BTCC and the end of 1998.

[Crash Test]

Morris- You obviously weren't a spectator marshall at Hell Corner- they most definately were asleep

I don't think Bathurst 98 was organised, but the whole of last season was..... it was disgraceful, and if you believe otherwise, you really are misguided.