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Old 8 Oct 2006, 14:12 (Ref:1731943)   #1
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Enzo Ferrari

What are yours thoughts on him.

I've been reading a book about drivers, team managers etc from 1950-2002 and Ferrari is intersting in that while he seems in love with his cars he was very uncompromising.

I like him but what about you?
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Old 8 Oct 2006, 16:43 (Ref:1732039)   #2
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Never met him personally, but from what I have read he had the racing in his blood. He was italian. Couldn't be a bad chap.
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Old 8 Oct 2006, 17:34 (Ref:1732070)   #3
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I think there's a lot about the man we don't know and maybe never will, i agree that the man was completely uncomprimising but isn't that a common feature with those that reach the top?

The thing i found suprising was the level of commitment he demanded from his drivers but on the one opportunity he had to drive an F1 car he froze up and didn't race again, if he couldn't do it how could he demand it from his drivers.
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Old 8 Oct 2006, 19:21 (Ref:1732174)   #4
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The thing i found suprising was the level of commitment he demanded from his drivers but on the one opportunity he had to drive an F1 car he froze up and didn't race again, if he couldn't do it how could he demand it from his drivers.
Maybe because that was what he was paying them to do
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Old 8 Oct 2006, 19:35 (Ref:1732187)   #5
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if he couldn't do it how could he demand it from his drivers.
A lot of very successful soccer coaches never got beyond 3 class playing themselves. Would you barr them from coaching the national team because of that, even though they are making winning teams out of them?

To be a winning racing team manager, you don't have to be a perfect race car driver, "just" a perfect racing team manager.
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Old 8 Oct 2006, 19:40 (Ref:1732191)   #6
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Err, Kempi. Haven't you heard of Ron Dennis' incredible driving career?

And Christian Horner kicked backside in F3000.

And who could forget Briatore's multiple titles?
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Old 8 Oct 2006, 20:14 (Ref:1732215)   #7
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I wanted to create an analogy, using someone directly out of F1 would have been too easy. Frank Williams would also be a good example.
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And who could forget Briatore's multiple titles?
Whats the ridiculous number of good looking women he's managed to go out with got to do with this?
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Uhn... we lost the subject somewhere...
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I think 10/10s has gone somewhere veeeery strange...

Someone mentions good looking women, and Bononicomplaints????????????
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I would have thought this was motorsport history, myself.
So, like just about every other person dedicataed to achieving a goal, the guy was a prick when you were on the wrong side. The question is: Is that a positive or negative attribute?
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I think there's a lot about the man we don't know and maybe never will, i agree that the man was completely uncomprimising but isn't that a common feature with those that reach the top?

The thing i found suprising was the level of commitment he demanded from his drivers but on the one opportunity he had to drive an F1 car he froze up and didn't race again, if he couldn't do it how could he demand it from his drivers.

Enzo Ferrari had a successful, if not spectacular, racing career when he was young, driving a variety of Italian cars. He founded the Scuderia Ferrari when he was in his 30s, and by the time the first Formula One race was run in 1951 he was in his 50s.

As a Ferrari historian for more some 30 years, I don't believe I've ever heard the story you mention.
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I think 10/10s has gone somewhere veeeery strange...

Someone mentions good looking women, and Bononicomplaints????????????


I'm getting old don't you think ?
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Enzo Ferrari had a successful, if not spectacular, racing career when he was young, driving a variety of Italian cars. He founded the Scuderia Ferrari when he was in his 30s, and by the time the first Formula One race was run in 1951 he was in his 50s.

As a Ferrari historian for more some 30 years, I don't believe I've ever heard the story you mention.

I was about to chime in with something similar. I believe Il Commendatore had a number of successes driving for Alfa Romeo in the 20's. I don't remember reading about him freezing up when offered the chance to drive an F1 car.
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Old 9 Oct 2006, 10:47 (Ref:1732791)   #15
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You haven't heard that story? i'm supprised, when i get back home i'll have a look to see where i read it, im sure its in my libary somewhere.
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I was looking for it, but I couldn't find anywhere. It would be interesting to read about it.
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