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Old 10 Mar 2009, 11:13 (Ref:2412878)   #1
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Historic racing pre-1990

Photos of historic racing from the days before it became big business. Love to see others from this period if anyone has any to share. Phil

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Old 10 Mar 2009, 16:20 (Ref:2413041)   #2
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Old 11 Mar 2009, 07:53 (Ref:2413423)   #3
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Good stuff. Historic racing, although really taking off post 1990, has been with us a lot longer, and I've been watching it since the late 1960's. A number of clubs, particularly the VSCC, of course, were running races for historic cars even earlier than that.
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Old 11 Mar 2009, 10:18 (Ref:2413528)   #4
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Good stuff. Historic racing, although really taking off post 1990, has been with us a lot longer, and I've been watching it since the late 1960's. A number of clubs, particularly the VSCC, of course, were running races for historic cars even earlier than that.
At the VSCC Richard Seamen race meetings in the early '60s the last race was always an Allcomers Scratch race and it was in these races that the 250Fs, Cooper-Bristols etc were able to have a thrash.

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Old 11 Mar 2009, 13:11 (Ref:2413610)   #5
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At the VSCC Richard Seamen race meetings in the early '60s the last race was always an Allcomers Scratch race and it was in these races that the 250Fs, Cooper-Bristols etc were able to have a thrash.


I think you are not quite correct. The Allcomers scratch race was one of the main races of the day along with the Seaman Vintage and Seaman Historic Trophy races and ran in the middle of the programme.

Post war cars weren't admitted until 1963 and then only pre 1954 and for that one year they ran in the Historic Seaman. It wasn't until 1965 or 1966 that the 2 1/2 litre formula cars were accepted.

The last race of the day was always a handicap and had the added spice of a few survivors from the Trophy races to liven the proceedings.

In those days "historic" racing was the VSCC. Then JCB came along and changed everything.
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Old 11 Mar 2009, 16:39 (Ref:2413734)   #6
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I think you are not quite correct. The Allcomers scratch race was one of the main races of the day along with the Seaman Vintage and Seaman Historic Trophy races and ran in the middle of the programme.

Post war cars weren't admitted until 1963 and then only pre 1954 and for that one year they ran in the Historic Seaman. It wasn't until 1965 or 1966 that the 2 1/2 litre formula cars were accepted.

The last race of the day was always a handicap and had the added spice of a few survivors from the Trophy races to liven the proceedings.

In those days "historic" racing was the VSCC. Then JCB came along and changed everything.
The first historic racing I saw was in 1982. Really odd looking at photos of that period (and earlier) to see sports and single-seaters racing together, as in JCB and Lloyds & Scottish.

Another from VSCC Silverstone:

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Old 11 Mar 2009, 16:43 (Ref:2413735)   #7
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What about the Griffiths formula; that was bit earlier than the Bamford involvement wasn't it, or did they sponsor that?

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Old 11 Mar 2009, 16:58 (Ref:2413744)   #8
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John, you are absolutely correct. The Griffiths Formula (named after Guy Griffiths) was devised by the Frazer Nash Car Club in 1966. It was to preserve the sports racing cars of the 1950s which the VSCC ironically didn't want to bring under their wing. The mantle was taken on by the newly formed HSCC which in those days wasn't involved in race organisation but was formed to preserve and register the cars
I think races for the Griffiths Formula were fairly few and far between and it was the AMOC who perhaps did more than most to promote it. My father put up a trophy for Griffiths Formula cars in 1967 in memory of his late brother who loved the cars of that era. Happily the right car, an Aston DBR1 won the first running of the race before the Jaguars took a strangehold.
JCB came along in 1970 and organised a championship for both racing and sports cars of the 1950s which we all thought was very odd at the time but proved to be very successful.
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I'd be very interested if anyone had Classic Saloon Car Club images from this period.
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The CSCC as it was then, started in 1976. It was based around 50's saloon s so I doubt anyone considered them historic at that time.
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Old 13 Mar 2009, 12:21 (Ref:2414864)   #11
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Don't think I have any CSCC photos myself. I'll check.

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Connaughts at Donington pre 1983, but can anyone please identify the exact date?
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Willie Green's Ferrari gets up a head of steam through the Thruxton chicane - 1978

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I quite like the way the images resize and come up with a viewer for all the pics on the page. Is it done automatically?
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I quite like the way the images resize and come up with a viewer for all the pics on the page. Is it done automatically?
Looks like it is now standard throughout the whole of Ten Tenths and is also retrospective. I also think it is an excellent idea and saves all that fiddling about when oversized photos are posted!

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Hesketh had this Bircage at the GP in 1975 although I have a feeling it was a replica.

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A few from the early - mid 80's

Lister Jag, Stephen Langton
http://rupert8766.fotopic.net/p27768168.html

N Hulme in his HomeTune T70 (always a favorite as he lived in a nearby village)
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Gerry Marshall Lister Jag (lister Jags - love'um)
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Austin Healy throughbreed sports race. (no idea who, or when exactly, but it must have been Brands Hatch mid 80's
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