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Yes but that I am told is the correct name for circuit- PARK ALGAR(VE). I'll revert to calling it Portimao just to keep the peace.....
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Dear Historic Racing entrants, drivers and followers,
The Estoril Historic Festival was the first Historic event in the Iberian Peninsula in 2003, organized by us. After three annual events - 2003, 2004 and 2005 - we are going back to the famous Estoril circuit next October (18/21) with the backing of the local authorities (Municipality of Cascais). After thee years in the Algarve we had to move on and resolve our contract with that circuit because of their gigantic financial problems and their unsustainable attitude towards suppliers and collaborating helpers who - most of them - are still waiting to receive their small and overdue retribution (alegedly also all track marshals for quite some time) apart from the great majority of the various suppliers of last year's Historic Festival. The situation may evolve negatively and provoke serious risks to the organization of an Historic Festival. All this is most sad, causing us to return to Estoril where we found an encouraging support from the Mayor of Cascais. Therefore, in spite of three Series Coordinators having decided to take the risk of going back to Algarve with their grids, we are in full progress with our Estoril Historic Festival whose racing program will include 16 races for 10 grids, including FIA HFO's last round of the year. As you may know, the Estoril Coast has been one of Europe's top seaside resorts and destinations where some of the world's top events have taken place in the last decade. |
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Some times (as in the last 30 days)temperatures in Estori have been 2 to 4º warmer than in Portimão.
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Yes, I think this is not the best solution - to have two meetings on the same weekend, but there is nothing we can do but to assure all entrants that the Estoril Historic Festival is going ahead with the same quality we have been doing all our historic events since 2003 (it will be our 10th historic meeting). And now with the support of the Mayor of Cascais (Estoril Coast) we can assure entrants that this will be a top event.
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This is certaunly not a "scam to husssle more money" and no "bait". The "Estoril guys" certainly are at it - to organize an Historic Festival qith the usual quality - on and off track - for entrants. Althoug our countryhas been having terrible financial and economic problems due to 8 years of Socialist gov bad management we have had a behaviour which has bdeen highly praised by IMF. I quite agree that having two events on the same weekend is crazy but we can not move the Estoril event due to being a FIA HFO round (GP Masters the previous weekend at Donington). I did not decide to have the Estoril Histoeric Festival the same w/e as the Algarve event. This date was chosen by me a year ago. The Algarve circuit decided to run thjeir event the same w/e. |
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Ok,
Can someone clarify what races are being held at which circuit so that I can plug them into the calendar please? for my part I'd like to run the Capri with JDC at one of them (subject to other commitments), but I don't know where. It's some years since we've been to Portugal but I like both the Estoril/Lisbon area and the Portimao. |
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In interest of balance, at Portimao the list is AFAIK- Motor Racing Legends Stirling Moss Trophy Motor Racing Legends Pre War Sports Cars Motor Racing Legends JD Classics Challenge HMRN (Carol Spragg) U2TC HMRN '1000km' 2hr race (1964-1971 World Sports Cars) Automobiles Historiques (Flavien & Vanessa Marcais) GT&SCC That is as of now, but would guess that both events are still open to additions or subtractions! As I am (unless things change!) taking a couple of cars down to Portimao for GT&SCC my intention is to enter the Escort in JD Challenge. |
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Thanks Mike, I'll update the calendar.
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The fact the Algarve circuit's CEO has decided together with three British series coordinators to continue running an historic event at Portimão has nothing to do with - it will be their and the drivers' risk. We are running the ESTORIL HISTORIC FESTIVAL having this year's last round of the FIA HFO Championship (our 2003 TGP event at Estoril was voted "Best of the Year") and seven other grids. This will be offiicially announced by the Mayor of Cascais and us in May. So, there is not doubt whatsoever that the Estoril Historic Festival - our 10th historic motor racing event - is on october 18/21. |
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Francisco, Thanks for the replies and clarifications.
My comment "they" was mainly at all sides. I'm all to used to seeing Portuguese event organizers not being treated fairly by each other (like what is happening right now with the new prototype championship vs. GT interests). That comment was in no means towards you guys but to all. For me it was absolutely unbelievable the news coming out and the sources from Estoril seemed vague at the time. But your arrival here certainly helps and I'm well aware that the guys down south are no Saints! I live in Lisbon so you can count me in as a spectator at least. Please start advertising it around the region and on the web/paper press (numerous places have large groups of aficioinados, like on facebook and the different magazines out there). If you need anything feel free to PM me. |
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I just had an email from HFO saying Estoril is cancelled. Any ideas??
See below ____________________ Dear Competitors Following the cancellation of the Estoril event by the organisers, we have been considering the possibility of adding a replacement. We have been offered the opportunity to participate in an event at the Spanish circuit of Jerez and the organisers have offered to provide 3 nights hotel accommodation (1 room) for each entry. The event will take place on the weekend of October 12th-14th which is one week after our Paul Ricard event. Please let me know if you would be interested in attending this event and if it would affect your participation at Paul Ricard. Regards Dan Dan Collins Chairman, Historic Formula One Championship |
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Hmmm !! Couldn't see that one coming
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That is a shame but maybe something had to give. AFAIK the Portimao meeting is still on- pity HFO couldn't join in with the proposed grids there.
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I've bumped this onto front page with a request that the title reverts to 'Algarve Historic Festival, Portimao' or something like that, please?
My understanding from UK organisers is that the event is very much on with grids as listed in post #63. The newly announced Jerez event is weekend BEFORE Portimao so an opportunity to do both events if anyone so desires. Sounds like a bloody good holiday to me... |
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Thank you, Peter.
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Does anyone know of any recent updates on this event please, i.e. the Algarve event scheduled for October 18th - 21st - just wondered how definite / secure it is yet?
The Autrodrome website mentions it and I've seen mention of certain series going there but it still seems a bit vague / disjointed for anyone wanting to book flights etc. Or maybe I'm missing something? Promised Mrs C a holiday in October and might suggest the Algarve - the racing would be purely coincidental of course. |
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In previous years everything took a while to come together and don't suppose it will be any different this time! Fabulous trip so fingers crossed.... |
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