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19 Jan 2013, 18:31 (Ref:3191522) | #1 | |
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F3 Dallara 396 - advise required
Hello everybody.
I am the proud owner of a 396 , which hasn't been used for the last 7 years (!) . Now that I have managed to drag myself off from the couch, and psyched-up to get back to the tracks, I am geting cold feet just by the sheer look of her, lonely and dusty in a dark corner of my garage. The car has no damage, but really, i dont know where to start from working on her. Besides the engine, which will go to a speciallist for a rebuild, I am desperate for any sort of advise on the rest, at least on major things that have to be looked at.. Is there any standard procedure , or any literature available ? Do some items, like fueltank , belts, or fire-extinguisher have to be replaced ? I have a couple of mechanics ready to go, but I am afraid I will have to give the orders.. Also, I will need to slowly stock-up on some spares; anyone knows where I can get those without having to ring up Dallara in Italy ? ..any of you guys still have some somewhere in your garage ? Really gratefull on any kind of assistance offered. |
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19 Jan 2013, 19:20 (Ref:3191533) | #2 | ||
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I suggest you ask someone the Monoposto guys - some of them are bound to have run a 396
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19 Jan 2013, 20:31 (Ref:3191552) | #3 | |
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Hi Poleman. I'm the Monoposto Club Administrator. Send me an email on admin@monoposto.co.uk and (as Andy says above) I can put you in touch with Monoposto racers with similar cars who may be able to offer advice
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19 Jan 2013, 20:58 (Ref:3191558) | #4 | ||
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See private message
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22 Jan 2013, 17:46 (Ref:3192820) | #5 | |
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thanks Andy & Simon.
Flatbroke I will contact you. Meantime anyone else willing to offer any guidance or advise ? |
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22 Jan 2013, 19:19 (Ref:3192858) | #6 | ||
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There are Dallara manuals available, although not sure if I have one for the 95/6. There is one for the previous and subsequent models, and I doubt much changed that's important at our level - http://nordicf3masters.eu/lang/en/fo...itors-2/manual
Seat belts will need replacing for racing, but for testing you may be okay if the belts are clean and tidy. Fire extinguisher needs to have pressure to be legal in the UK. Getting it serviced/refilled/rearmed may be difficult if the bottle is more than 10 years old or thereabouts. Spares are findable, depending on whether you are rich or not. Dermot Healy has a few bits and bobs for these cars most of the time. There are people around that can make suspension, suppliers that can get wings... Depends what you want/need. These cars are pretty solid really, so you shouldn't need to replace too much unless it's been poorly cared for or damaged. Just a case of going through it methodically, making sure the wheels won't fall off, the brakes work (and release), and that the engine/wiring/coolant/oil is behaving itself... |
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23 Jan 2013, 19:43 (Ref:3193368) | #7 | |
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thanks vm
btw what u think this car is worth in todays market ? |
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23 Jan 2013, 19:49 (Ref:3193371) | #8 | ||
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Depends on lots of stuff
Is it a complete car ? If so what engine ? There was a complete mugen 1995 or 1996 car for sale For £12k I'd say one of the problems with some of the older Dallara is the small cockpit size |
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26 Jan 2013, 16:43 (Ref:3194526) | #9 | |
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the car is a F396 , complete no missing parts, with a good paintjob a couple of years back. there is also STACK data logging.
Engine is Mugen I( think 1998-9 model), but no miles left in it, so needs rebuilt . I see most of the ads both in UK and abroad , including the Dallara site , ask for 16 - 23,000 euro , which is 13 - 19k pounds. what's your take on this ? |
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26 Jan 2013, 17:22 (Ref:3194538) | #10 | ||
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So it will need a £4k-8k rebuild on the engine
Before it turns a wheel Battey £150 Seat belts £150 Extinguisher £50-£300 depending if you need new Or a recharge Master cylinder seals £40 Caliper seals £100 Brake pads £300 Fuel pumps £200 Service the wheel bearings and driveshafts New set of boots and away you go!! You can buy a race winning 01 car from a top f3 cup team for £18k |
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28 Jan 2013, 16:45 (Ref:3195352) | #11 | |
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thanks flatbroke
talking about "boots" , anybody know where I can find Dunlops ?? If I remember correctly they are one of the best choices.. size is 230/57 0R13 |
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28 Jan 2013, 18:57 (Ref:3195389) | #12 | ||
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John miller at team west tec
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28 Jan 2013, 21:20 (Ref:3195450) | #13 | ||
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I have some used Dunlops. Bit too hard for British temperatures, and not eligible for F3 Cup anyway.
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20 Sep 2015, 07:44 (Ref:3575311) | #14 | |
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Hi everyone,
We are owners of a f396 dallara and we are after some spare parts . I know this is an old thread but would appreciate any help possible . We are after brake pads , and our starter is slipping a bit . The problem is the cogwheel . any chance to find a replacement? The brake pads model is FERODO FRP308C. Will try to upload an image of the starter . The engine is an Alfa Romeo . Regards, DT |
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30 Sep 2015, 17:16 (Ref:3578350) | #15 | |
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hello DT . I would think your best bet is to ask brake pad makers (like Ferrodo)..
we have some parts for the F395 396 , so if you wish send me a detailed list, with pics if possible. |
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Pads.
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