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Old 9 Dec 2013, 21:00 (Ref:3342081)   #16
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Cost cap is probably necessary.
Permanent numbers aren't, but I don't really mind either. Not really the first thing that comes to mind as needing fixing though.
Double points is a good contender for being the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 21:02 (Ref:3342082)   #17
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Cue controversy: I like all these changes. Yes the final round double points doesn't sit well with many, but it's not artificially affecting handing one person an advantage and preventing the drivers racing. In fact, it may encourage drivers to push more at the final.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 21:03 (Ref:3342083)   #18
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Imagine if you lead all season, then your engine blows in Abu Dhabi and someone sails past you in the standings because of the double points.
agreed. if they want the last race to be more relevant then go back to an older point system where there was less of a gap between a 1st and 2nd place finish.

giving someone 50 points for a winning the last race of the year just sounds random.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 21:04 (Ref:3342084)   #19
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and that's me done with F1 now.

The double points for the last round or "bonus round" has just finished for me, no longer about racing, it's not so obviously just a moving target to get ratings, probably next that for every consecutive race you win, you lose a set of tyres, or something stupid.

oh and numbers, fixed numbers....unless you're the champion...and want the number.

It's just like the kid at school making the rules up to get his best team and favourite number shirt.

If this junk goes into next year, I won't watch a bit of it.

I want to see

a.) teams build the fastest card possible and be rewarded with that
b.) drivers race as hard as possible to win as many races as possible but have a long term goal to win a championship to be counted as "the best"
c.) accidents to happen and be treated as an accident not ruin races to help figures.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 21:14 (Ref:3342088)   #20
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Double points race is ridiculous, but will also have the knock on effect of ensuring teams develop their cars right until the end of the season due to the extra points on offer, surely meaning more money being spent.

I'm happy enough with the number changes, although Sebastian Vettel has enough trouble sticking with one helmet design throughout a race weekend, how is he going to be able select a number for a season/career when he isn't given no.1?!

Regarding the Bahrain test, does anyone know if the teams may consider, or are able to use the V6 engines? Not sure if any are ready for track use yet (apart from the Ferrari apparently) but I'd bet they'd jump at the chance to try them if they could. The Autosport story mentions 2013 cars, but no mention of engines, unless this also means 2013 engines. Given the extra torque the tyres are going to have to withstand next year, surely it would make sense to allow the new engines?
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 21:35 (Ref:3342096)   #21
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Hooray! Points for everyone!

I wasn't a fan of the original decision to let the winner receive 25 points. I fondly remember Martin Brundle saying how he struggled in many races to finish sixth for one point, whereas these days they give points out like smarties.

I like the sound of the other items though. A cost cap is certainly necessary, but will it actually get anywhere this time? Permanent numbers is something I've missed for a long time too.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 21:54 (Ref:3342108)   #22
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People staffing the non-Formula 1 departments of Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren and maybe even Renault should expect a lot more work from 2015 onwards.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 22:12 (Ref:3342123)   #23
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People staffing the non-Formula 1 departments of Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren and maybe even Renault should expect a lot more work from 2015 onwards.
And I'd imagine they'll be taking on a lot of ex formula 1 staff.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 23:20 (Ref:3342144)   #24
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What about Bernie"s sprinkler system idea, along with the dbl points....
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 23:22 (Ref:3342145)   #25
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the double points thing though...

doesn't this bode quite well for fans? i know it's been a special case this year with the whole 2014 needing a whole new car thing and most teams bailing out of full scale development of their '13 cars early. but isn't it going to mean that they're going to have to carry on developing and refining the car at full pelt or risk losing a serious bucketload of points at the end of the year? how will that in turn affect their 2015 cars?

are the teams going to take a different approach to the whole season, especially if it's looking tight on engine and gearboxes towards the end of the year?

don't get me wrong i hate it but none of us really watch f1 for the racing any more, do we? we watch it for the storyline and the drama... at least this is throwing a spanner in the works a bit.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 23:34 (Ref:3342151)   #26
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I can't stand Abu Dhabi awarding more points than Monaco. Or Monza, Spa or Silverstone. or Suzuka or Interlagos.
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Double might be fine for somewhere like Monaco or Suzuka where the drivers really earn them, but next year we end up with double points in ............. Abu Dhabi
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 23:41 (Ref:3342155)   #28
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Developing cars for longer? Isn't it only like adding one extra race from a points perspective?

Not for that reason, I hate it. There is no sporting logic behind it. The primary goal is to find the best driver car team over the year. This doesn't help that. I do not fall into the camp of getting pleasure out of whinging about poor rules. However my stance on this is that it is pathetic. The FIA should protect the sport against this not implement it. Just because 'fans' whinge that the season was over too early doesn't mean this was needed.
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 23:49 (Ref:3342159)   #29
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I can't stand Abu Dhabi awarding more points than Monaco. Or Monza, Spa or Silverstone. or Suzuka or Interlagos.
IT IS A NON-SENSE INDEED!!

Give Spa, Monza or Suzuka that treat indeed!!!
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Old 9 Dec 2013, 23:50 (Ref:3342160)   #30
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It's just another gimmick in an attempt to *spice* up the show..

Budget cap now please... How much more spice does anyone need!
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