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Old 17 Nov 2017, 10:44 (Ref:3780945)   #1
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FIA WTCR 2018: WTCC / TCR Merger?

According to the Dutch edition of Motorsport.com the WTCC/TCR merger is pretty much a done deal:

https://nl.motorsport.com/wtcc/news/...e-2018-979676/

Short summary:
  • Merger at hand for 2018 already
  • Negotiations in the final stage
  • Class 1 regulations proposed, but no support from both factory and private teams
  • Both championships running TCR regulations next to each other would be bad for both
  • Championship would lose its 'FIA World Championship' status and would become a 'FIA World Cup'.
  • No more factory teams, privateer teams only (similar to GT3)
  • Both WTCC and TCR Int. refuse to release statements about the matter, but a deal is expected in several weeks.

My opinion: great for both series, and it proves Lotti was right after all
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 11:49 (Ref:3780955)   #2
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So WTCR will be the only international touring car competition? It will be based on a TCR calendar?
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 12:04 (Ref:3780958)   #3
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Sounds a good idea to me, much better to adopt the TCR rukes than have a small grid of class TC1 cars. Much better economy of scale as cars can be invested in and raced in a wide range of championships around the World.

As for the spectacle, TV views and circuit spectators want big grids of cars they can identify with, the lap time and performance relative to TC1 cars won't be noticeable IMO.
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 12:19 (Ref:3780960)   #4
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I hope this is a sensible merger and not TCR international running the WTCC calendar

Don't want to see Morocco back, or Villa Real. Or Argentina, or Qatar

Let's have a well supported, big grid, using decent worldwide circuits.

Monza, Spa, Zhejiang, Hungaroring, Brands Hatch? Maybe even a US Race now there is TCR cars over there


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Old 17 Nov 2017, 12:32 (Ref:3780964)   #5
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I hope this is a sensible merger and not TCR international running the WTCC calendar

Don't want to see Morocco back, or Villa Real. Or Argentina, or Qatar

Let's have a well supported, big grid, using decent worldwide circuits.

Monza, Spa, Zhejiang, Hungaroring, Brands Hatch? Maybe even a US Race now there is TCR cars over there


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I absolutely agree with that

But i think it's more the WTCC that will merge in the TCR Int. honestly if I understand correctly
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 12:35 (Ref:3780965)   #6
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WTCC canít swim against the tide anymore, it had to go with the majority and that is TCR. Hopefully the series can improve again now
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 12:54 (Ref:3780972)   #7
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WTCC canít swim against the tide anymore, it had to go with the majority and that is TCR. Hopefully the series can improve again now
It's a different series.
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 13:04 (Ref:3780975)   #8
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Hopefully the action will rise up to the standards of TCR, and not drop to the snoozefest standards that WTCC has been for a long time.
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I hope this is a sensible merger and not TCR international running the WTCC calendar

Don't want to see Morocco back, or Villa Real. Or Argentina, or Qatar

Let's have a well supported, big grid, using decent worldwide circuits.

Monza, Spa, Zhejiang, Hungaroring, Brands Hatch? Maybe even a US Race now there is TCR cars over there
They should keep going to Argentina, if possible. It's nice to have the country on an international calendar and I like the circuit.

Zhejiang is a terrible track, so no thanks.

This should be a good solution to the divided international scene. If this year's main TCR entrants stay on and are joined by the WTCC privateers, that'll be a good field.
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Good PR spin here. Is it really a merger?

A cynic might say that it is the WTCC being canned and International TCR being given FIA status. although I guess that depends on who ends up running the show.
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 14:32 (Ref:3780999)   #11
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But who will promote the new championship, Eurosport or Lotti's WSC?
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 18:22 (Ref:3781068)   #12
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For now it seems a good idea and good solution but still there are so many unknows that a lot can change until we will see a finished product.
As far as I know, it will be promoted by Eurosport which is good but I'd rather see TCR calendar instead of WTCC.
For me a bit of a shame that there won't be any manufacturers however I know why is it so. But the greatest solution will be to have factory-supported teams like in BTCC for example. We know that Hyundai for example was involved in i30 TCR.
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Good PR spin here. Is it really a merger?

A cynic might say that it is the WTCC being canned and International TCR being given FIA status. although I guess that depends on who ends up running the show.
There's a good reason why TouringCars.Net haven't referred to it as a merger - our journalist Damian Meaden is in the paddock and the way things are being described is more of a realignment.

Eurosport get to keep acting as promoter for a global touring car series, WSC let their IP be used under licence and a watchful eye, with the regional series protected, and the FIA get to keep the top of the touring car pyramid intact, in a way.

These things are still being finalised and no one will make an official comment at present.
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Old 17 Nov 2017, 19:55 (Ref:3781090)   #14
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i wonder what will happen with the TC1 cars if the merger happens. doubt any of the teams who own the cars will be able to sell them. should they add TC1 class to ETCC? or just let them disappear?
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