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View Poll Results: What score do you give the final Grand Prix of 2017?
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7 4 7.84%
6 4 7.84%
5 8 15.69%
4 7 13.73%
3 11 21.57%
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 20:29 (Ref:3783262)   #16
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dull track, not worthy of the season finale. If the battle for 13th is the hilight, then that speaks volumes. 3 from me.
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 20:44 (Ref:3783267)   #17
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Gave it a 1 and that's being generous, fireworks doesn't really excite me as I'm not a child anymore.

There was apparently a race happening as well, but to be honest, I've coughed up racier stuff than that.
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 20:57 (Ref:3783271)   #18
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6 for the race.
10 for the breakfast I made
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 22:36 (Ref:3783286)   #19
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1 as i couldn't select 0.
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 22:43 (Ref:3783292)   #20
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Well the drivers agree. In the cool-down room, they were vocal about the track having to change so that they can actually race on it.
It really is a poor track. It's flaws are well documented. There's scope to change it e.g. bypass that chicane before the hairpin that makes no sense whatsoever as it turns an obvious overtaking spot into simply a hairpin.

There's never been anything approaching a good race on this hen run.
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 22:45 (Ref:3783293)   #21
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You're a miserable bunch........

As usual discounting all the "clever" comments about sleeping through it because (if true) you've no idea what the race was like.

Sure it wasn't a wheel banging battle at the front, although if you were monitoring the live timing there was a constant battle going on as the two leaders swapped fastest sectors and laps, and some distance away Verstappen was keeping Kimi honest, although neither Ferrari nor Red Bull seemed to be able to compete with the Mercs - except near the end of the race when Vettel mysteriously started matching the leaders' pace.

Further down the field some good scraps (Massa / Alonso, Stroll / Grosjean and even at the back of the field) livened things up.

A bit of an end-of-term feel about it, but nothing to warrant the miserable reactions so far, guys, IMHO. Maybe you want to go back to cars crashing in flames to liven things up?
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Old 26 Nov 2017, 22:58 (Ref:3783300)   #22
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5 and only by Mercs dominance and quite Hulkenberg performance.
Aside that was quite... ehm...
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 00:59 (Ref:3783326)   #23
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As I was watching it on the box in the UK and not in Spain I was more interested in keeping my wood burning stove loaded up, nice and warm 28c. Oh the race ! I did see a few laps but it was a bit like "Groundhog Day"
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 02:58 (Ref:3783341)   #24
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Abu Dhabi is a very pretty looking gin palace that does not produce good racing for current F1 cars... I gave it a 3..
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 08:53 (Ref:3783400)   #25
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You're a miserable bunch........

As usual discounting all the "clever" comments about sleeping through it because (if true) you've no idea what the race was like.

Sure it wasn't a wheel banging battle at the front, although if you were monitoring the live timing there was a constant battle going on as the two leaders swapped fastest sectors and laps, and some distance away Verstappen was keeping Kimi honest, although neither Ferrari nor Red Bull seemed to be able to compete with the Mercs - except near the end of the race when Vettel mysteriously started matching the leaders' pace.

Further down the field some good scraps (Massa / Alonso, Stroll / Grosjean and even at the back of the field) livened things up.

A bit of an end-of-term feel about it, but nothing to warrant the miserable reactions so far, guys, IMHO. Maybe you want to go back to cars crashing in flames to liven things up?
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Agree with both of you. I thought there was a lot of interesting stuff going on and more so than in some of the other races this season, but then I stayed awake, paid attention and actually enjoyed it. I gave it 7, which is high for me.
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 09:48 (Ref:3783420)   #26
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5 from me (a low score on my record). Just enough interest to keep me out of the kitchen but I went to get the day's roast dinner ready as soon as the flag dropped.
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 10:56 (Ref:3783442)   #27
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7, some good chases, but apart from Grosjean, not much overtaking
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 11:07 (Ref:3783448)   #28
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Well the drivers agree. In the cool-down room, they were vocal about the track having to change so that they can actually race on it.
Last year's race was fantastic.This was the worst race in this era of F1.
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 11:56 (Ref:3783459)   #29
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I think it's all down to tree's, the more trees around a circuit the better the racing appears to be so my answer to F1 dullness is plant more tree's
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Old 27 Nov 2017, 19:56 (Ref:3783576)   #30
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I gave it a 5; I suppose there was enough going on to give it that, but yeah, overtaking department wasn't great. The first portion felt kind of weird, as I'd just finished watching the Supercars madness from Newcastle.

Three basic things for the track:
1. Bypass that silly chicane before the hairpin.
2. Turn that "chicane" between the two back stretches into a 90-degree left and a right-hand sweep to rejoin the exiting course just slightly down that second stretch.
3. Simply have the one DRS zone on that second stretch, or maybe the pit straight needs it more.
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