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Old 26 May 2014, 01:47 (Ref:3410670)   #101
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A good weekend for the Tony's FF and will do the confidence of TDF no harm after Bathurst.
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Old 26 May 2014, 01:49 (Ref:3410672)   #102
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Poor Steve McLaughlin....

Luff wasn't allowed to race due to injury, they wouldn't let Bright take over as qualified already with luff... So Steve did race alone, did a great job for 9th, then got dsq for doing too many laps

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That's just stupid! I thought the GT mob had their heads screwed on better than that!
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Old 26 May 2014, 02:07 (Ref:3410676)   #103
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A good weekend for the Tony's FF and will do the confidence of TDF no harm after Bathurst.
Yeah, had a due visit from the karma train.

It usually turns up in the end.
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Old 26 May 2014, 02:08 (Ref:3410677)   #104
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That's just stupid! I thought the GT mob had their heads screwed on better than that!
In fairness to GT, it's a CAMS ruling.
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Old 26 May 2014, 02:30 (Ref:3410680)   #105
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In fairness to GT, it's a CAMS ruling.
and in fairness to CAMS, it's a GT's sporting regulation.

Just unfortunate that there isn't a contingency or any flexibility for this kind of thing.
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and in fairness to CAMS, it's a GT's sporting regulation.

Just unfortunate that there isn't a contingency or any flexibility for this kind of thing.
Wonder if the same ruling would have applied had one of Mr Quinn's codrivers suddenly become unavailable
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Old 26 May 2014, 03:33 (Ref:3410695)   #107
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and in fairness to CAMS, it's a GT's sporting regulation.

Just unfortunate that there isn't a contingency or any flexibility for this kind of thing.
Are you saying CAMS allow drivers to race that haven't qualified, or driven in any practice session?
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Old 26 May 2014, 03:59 (Ref:3410698)   #108
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No, I'm saying CAMS are the regulator of the AGT Sporting and Technical regulations.They would have only been policing them as they are written.

My musing was that it was a shame that a contingency wasn't or couldn't be explored. I would have signed any last-minute competitor agreement to allow someone of the calibre of Jason Bright to step in. No problem with it at all.
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Old 26 May 2014, 05:29 (Ref:3410707)   #109
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It's ok for V8SC to do it, when a driver is injured.

At Symmons Plains a few seasons back, Mr Bright sustained a rib/back injury during a race. They enlisted Mr McConville for the remaining race. No prior practice or qualy sessions undertaken.

But yeah, plenty of suitable replacements were around on the day, that could've been ushered in at the last minute.
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Old 26 May 2014, 05:59 (Ref:3410710)   #110
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Wonder if the same ruling would have applied had one of Mr Quinn's codrivers suddenly become unavailable
Isn't that exactly what happened in the 2013 Bathurst 12 Hour?

When Tony Quinn was taken to hospital after being involved in an accident early in the Aston, Matt Kingsley was drafted in mid-race as a replacement in the VIP Porsche for the rest of the race?
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Old 26 May 2014, 06:05 (Ref:3410713)   #111
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Betty rambled this morning on her facebook.


One interesting line that I deciphered claimed her husband now owns the GT team.

I dont really know what that means for the future of that program. Maybe nothing. i do find her quite odd though.
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Old 26 May 2014, 06:15 (Ref:3410715)   #112
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Im fairly confident that this was purchased/transferred at the end of last year - atleast prior to this year Bathurst 12 Hour.

By all accounts - the GT side of the program with its Asian GT appearances added to 12 Hour and AGT schedules is fairly stable (more so than its V8SC counterpart)
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Old 26 May 2014, 06:58 (Ref:3410735)   #113
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Isn't that exactly what happened in the 2013 Bathurst 12 Hour?

When Tony Quinn was taken to hospital after being involved in an accident early in the Aston, Matt Kingsley was drafted in mid-race as a replacement in the VIP Porsche for the rest of the race?
Exactly...Kingsley and some other no-hoper drafted for two teams with wounded drivers after the race began.

The race secretary and race director operated using their professional discretion and after consultation with the rules and CAMS. Don't know if the same effort was applied on Saturday. I guess if no one asked for discretion then it wouldn't be offered? Dunno...
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Old 26 May 2014, 07:08 (Ref:3410736)   #114
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Gee I wonder who the 'other no-hoper' happened to be?.
Whoever it was did a damn good job of getting a somewhat 'used' Porsche home.
I think Kingers had an easier drive.
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Old 26 May 2014, 07:26 (Ref:3410744)   #115
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I enjoyed the day and, as a spectator, like the 101 lap concept - although this event was the Phillip Island 82 in the end. Don't like the idea that Mr McLaughlin was allowed to start without a nominated co-driver if they weren't going to allow the result for him. If he was aware in advance, then his decision to run or not - but otherwise it's a lot of cost for a DSQ result.

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I also think it's mighty unfair to let someone start a race by themselves if under the rules a single driver can't do the whole race. It's just dumb. I feel for McLaughlin, he would've been stuffed after more then two hours in the car and then at the end to be told that he was DQ for something he could've should've been told about before the race started, he would've been mightily disappointed.

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Old 26 May 2014, 23:26 (Ref:3411081)   #117
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If you're going to have to do a two hour stint, then you'd want it to be Phillip Island, some good straights to catch a breather and the overcast conditions were good for player comfort...but that said, agree its unfair to penalise McLaughlin post-race. Plenty of time from Luffy's hospital trip to race-start to have it sorted and agreed upon.
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I presume McLaughlin was aware of the DQ prior to the race. The Nationals TV commentators discussed this during the grid and warm up laps (Luff's departure and the maximum driving time allowed for 1 driver) - so I assume that this would be common knowledge in the team.

Betty's facebook comment was fairly disappointing. With a driver line up comprimising Richard Muscat and Jack Le Broc (while not being V8 Supercar regulars) who are extremely quick and capable, questioning the sporting morality of other teams putting in pro drivers was ridiculous.

Betty - you lost me here.
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I presume McLaughlin was aware of the DQ prior to the race. The Nationals TV commentators discussed this during the grid and warm up laps (Luff's departure and the maximum driving time allowed for 1 driver) - so I assume that this would be common knowledge in the team.

Betty's facebook comment was fairly disappointing. With a driver line up comprimising Richard Muscat and Jack Le Broc (while not being V8 Supercar regulars) who are extremely quick and capable, questioning the sporting morality of other teams putting in pro drivers was ridiculous.

Betty - you lost me here.
Mr Davison was in Indianapolis to cheer on cousin James (and perhaps kick around asking for rides.. ), but Mr Holdsworth was likely free
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I also think it's mighty unfair to let someone start a race by themselves if under the rules a single driver can't do the whole race. It's just dumb.
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I presume McLaughlin was aware of the DQ prior to the race. The Nationals TV commentators discussed this during the grid and warm up laps (Luff's departure and the maximum driving time allowed for 1 driver) - so I assume that this would be common knowledge in the team.
Does seem strange - maybe the team chose to run knowing that they only had one driver on the basis that if the race was stopped early they might just squeak within the driving time.
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I think it was also that McLaughlin, especially starting on pole was just keen to race cop a DQ rather than sit in the garage.
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Looks like it wasn't his cars' fault here either, just like at Bathurst with our Ferrari..

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In fairness though, at PI the Audi was fairly innocent driving down the inside and was tagged by another vehicle.
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In fairness though, at PI the Audi was fairly innocent driving down the inside and was tagged by another vehicle.
Do you blame the Ascari then?

Any video?

I haven't seen anything, but I know scudd feels innocent.
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Video - about 44mins & 30 seconds in
http://motorsportstv.com.au/livestre...ts.mtv.3014217

I am looking at the Ascari and Lambo more so than the Audi in this instance
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