Tony Cochrane retires as Chairman

[fredd1]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

I couldn't agree. Anymore

You forgot the apostrophe, I've fixed it.

[hdt05]

I know the season hasn't started as yet but I did expect to hear a little more from tc's replacement by this stage and his plans moving forward.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by hdt05

I know the season hasn't started as yet but I did expect to hear a little more from tc's replacement by this stage and his plans moving forward.

Replacement was announced quite a while ago - no word on plans etc but guess there'll be more of that to come.

From memory he doesn't start in the role till February.

[formerf1champ]

Apologies for bumping this thread, as it should've slinked back into the background, like the person it's about. However, with all the shenanigans regarding drugs in sport in the last week, we're all aware of the press conference held by minister Clare and senator Lundy on thursday. They were accompanied on the podium by the ceo/representative of 5 major sport codes/competitions in Australia. So, did any of you notice a major absence on that podium???

Where was the v8sc/motorsport representative on that podium??? HMMM! What has Coch****rane been doing in the last 16 years??? HMMM!16 years ago, if this same conference was held, there would not have been a motorsport representative, as expected, because domestic motorsport was a minor sports industry in Australia. But now we've had Tony, so someone was going to be there on that podium.

But no, nobody was there! So what has happened in the last 16 years? A lot of talking ****. A lot of bad mouthing other motorsport classes. Some minor economic gains. Massive increases in expenses fro competitors. Wild, outlandish ambitions, that haven't eventuated or prospered. So, why was he bought in in the first place? It was 16 years ago, it's along time, enough to make a difference. Was FAS33 even born then?

The fact is, he was brought in as outsider in increase the industry/proflie/relevance on the atcc at the time, and indirectly, domestic motorsport. The fact is he hasn't done it. 16 years ago, whether or not anyone knew this press conference was to occur, the reason why he was bought in was to make sure someone would be on that podium, because it/they were relevant to the Australian public. Even though doping in motorsport is not a known practice, only the relevant sport codes/competitions to Australia were represented on that podium. It's unlikely that, had a simliar press conference been held 16 years ago, that soccer would've had a representative.

But you know what? "We're" going to Austin in May...Who gives a ****!

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

Apologies for bumping this thread, as it should've slinked back into the background, like the person it's about. However, with all the shenanigans regarding drugs in sport in the last week, we're all aware of the press conference held by minister Clare and senator Lundy on thursday. They were accompanied on the podium by the ceo/representative of 5 major sport codes/competitions in Australia. So, did any of you notice a major absence on that podium???

Where was the v8sc/motorsport representative on that podium??? HMMM! What has Coch****rane been doing in the last 16 years??? HMMM!16 years ago, if this same conference was held, there would not have been a motorsport representative, as expected, because domestic motorsport was a minor sports industry in Australia. But now we've had Tony, so someone was going to be there on that podium.

But no, nobody was there! So what has happened in the last 16 years? A lot of talking ****. A lot of bad mouthing other motorsport classes. Some minor economic gains. Massive increases in expenses fro competitors. Wild, outlandish ambitions, that haven't eventuated or prospered. So, why was he bought in in the first place? It was 16 years ago, it's along time, enough to make a difference. Was FAS33 even born then?

The fact is, he was brought in as outsider in increase the industry/proflie/relevance on the atcc at the time, and indirectly, domestic motorsport. The fact is he hasn't done it. 16 years ago, whether or not anyone knew this press conference was to occur, the reason why he was bought in was to make sure someone would be on that podium, because it/they were relevant to the Australian public. Even though doping in motorsport is not a known practice, only the relevant sport codes/competitions to Australia were represented on that podium. It's unlikely that, had a simliar press conference been held 16 years ago, that soccer would've had a representative.

But you know what? "We're" going to Austin in May...Who gives a ****!

Those representatives on the podium are from a specific consortium, or association of mass participation ball sports. You'll notice a shedload of other sports weren't up there either - such as the AOC.

Can't imagine that motor sport, whether it be V8SC or other parts of it, would need to be represented in regard to something that is unlikely to be an issue for motor sport (performance enhancing drugs).

Don't really see how you can dredge up a Cochrane bash out of that.

The NSW ICAC hearings this week are another matter though.......

[STEALTHY]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Those representatives on the podium are from a specific consortium, or association of mass participation ball sports. You'll notice a shedload of other sports weren't up there either - such as the AOC.

Can't imagine that motor sport, whether it be V8SC or other parts of it, would need to be represented in regard to something that is unlikely to be an issue for motor sport (performance enhancing drugs).

Don't really see how you can dredge up a Cochrane bash out of that.

The NSW ICAC hearings this week are another matter though.......

Are you suggesting the drivers (Or infact the whole team) are not at peak physical fitness, where performance enhancing drugs could be utilized? If so, you'd be very mistaken. These guys are just as fit (if not more) than ball sport players. Although i'm not sure theres any written rule regarding it since performance enhancing in this sport is regarded as a movable splitter

[Trevor]

If performace enhancing drugs are not an issue in motorsport, why does CAMS have a policy on it and why does a reference to their policy appear everywhere - where there is smoke . . . . . . . . hmmm????

http://cams.com.au/en/Safety/Illicit...y_Testing.aspx

[peckstar]

Eugene Arocca has already commented on this, he is the appropriate person to do that.

All the others were the CE(O's of the appropriate sport

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by STEALTHY

Are you suggesting the drivers (Or infact the whole team) are not at peak physical fitness, where performance enhancing drugs could be utilized? If so, you'd be very mistaken. These guys are just as fit (if not more) than ball sport players. Although i'm not sure theres any written rule regarding it since performance enhancing in this sport is regarded as a movable splitter

No, I'm not suggesting that at all, not even close. There ARE rules about performance enhancing drugs in motorsport and there has been drug testing at V8 race meetings as well as other meetings. The reason that it's not an issue to the extent of the five sports in the consortium on the podium is that the advantages in motorsport are less clear or non-existent. The general view is that beta blockers MIGHT be of assistance to drivers, but that's about it.

Originally Posted by Trevor

If performace enhancing drugs are not an issue in motorsport, why does CAMS have a policy on it and why does a reference to their policy appear everywhere - where there is smoke . . . . . . . . hmmm????

http://cams.com.au/en/Safety/Illicit...y_Testing.aspx

See my note above re likely benefit of performance enhancing drugs in motorsport. The CAMS policy has been there for quite some time and testing has taken place. It was introduced as it was a fed govt requirement for all sports at one stage - plus makes sense as a sport to test and know what you're dealing with. The testing that's been done has turned up some traces of recreational stuff (not in V8s, I'm talking overall) but from memory that's been it. Testing is done by ASADA when it occurs and is to the same standard as other sports and utilises a standardised ASADA procedure.

Originally Posted by peckstar

Eugene Arocca has already commented on this, he is the appropriate person to do that.

All the others were the CE(O's of the appropriate sport

True, plus there is a news item on the V8 website. Other bodies such as the AOC (not represented on the podium mentioned) have also made comment.

[mayhem]

I wonder whether the Black Wiggle might be called before ICAC sometime soon to talk about alleged $55K payments to Ian McDonald to get the Homebush race given the go ahead? Mr McKay indicates today that a whole lot more will be exposed this week over the whole saga, interesting times ...

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Those representatives on the podium are from a specific consortium, or association of mass participation ball sports. You'll notice a shedload of other sports weren't up there either - such as the AOC.

Can't imagine that motor sport, whether it be V8SC or other parts of it, would need to be represented in regard to something that is unlikely to be an issue for motor sport (performance enhancing drugs).

Don't really see how you can dredge up a Cochrane bash out of that.

The NSW ICAC hearings this week are another matter though.......

$50k to the minister, who paid ? Big week ahead.

[formerf1champ]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Those representatives on the podium are from a specific consortium, or association of mass participation ball sports. You'll notice a shedload of other sports weren't up there either - such as the AOC.

The other sports/competitions are also irrelevant. The AOC? I cannot think of an Olympic sport, that Australia takes seriously, that has a big domestic presence.

Originally Posted by Tourer

Can't imagine that motor sport, whether it be V8SC or other parts of it, would need to be represented in regard to something that is unlikely to be an issue for motor sport (performance enhancing drugs).

While I agree that peds wouldn't be as effective in motorsport than others, therefore it's less of a problem. The point of the post was to highlight what sport/comps are/n't relevant to the wider public in Australia.

Originally Posted by Tourer

Don't really see how you can dredge up a Cochrane bash out of that.

Cocho/v8sc likes to trump itself up as a major sport/comp. They would stick their nose in anything to gain attention. Well, there was a display of what is "relevant" to Australia. Peds would be more helpful to a driver/rider than a cricket player. No need for cricket to be represented. Soccer? I highly doubt there would've been a representative had their been a similar announcement 16 years ago. The nsl/a-league has hauled itself above motorsport.

Cochrane + motorsport = Failure.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by cavvy

$50k to the minister, who paid ? Big week ahead.

Yep - although not necessarily the minister - that's the point of disagreement - ICAC have accused Greg Jones of paying that to the minister, Jones testimony is it money paid to him by V8s as a consultant / lobbyist. All based off a rough, handwritten set of cash flow calculation that ICAC seized amongst everything else from Jones.

Not proven either way at this stage.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

Cocho/v8sc likes to trump itself up as a major sport/comp. They would stick their nose in anything to gain attention. Well, there was a display of what is "relevant" to Australia. Peds would be more helpful to a driver/rider than a cricket player. No need for cricket to be represented. Soccer? I highly doubt there would've been a representative had their been a similar announcement 16 years ago. The nsl/a-league has hauled itself above motorsport.

Cochrane + motorsport = Failure.

The point you're missing is that the sports represented are in an association - it is members of that association that the ACC is accusing of drug taking / criminal associations. No other sports have been implicated by the ACC investigation so no other sports were represented on that podium.

[formerf1champ]

Yep. Just being a cheeky ****.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

Yep. Just being a cheeky ****.

Yeah - had a feeling......

[cavvy]

Cochrane sells V8 stake for $2m

http://www.afr.com/p/lifestyle/sport...kpQJLiMSedrvmL

..... documents were lodged with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission confirming Mr Cochrane being paid $2 million for 2000 shares in a buyback by V8 Supercars Holdings. He still owns 3000 shares.

Mr Cochrane would not comment on the sale to The Australian Financial Review but said he was maintaining a shareholding to “share in the future growth of the sport”.

He is said to be working on a business plan for a return to the sports business industry within a few months, but would not comment on the plans.

[GTRMagic]

Interesting move, but makes no sense at all to only partially clear a personal holding. Although, its not likely to be returning funds to shareholders in the 2013 financial year

Mr Cochrane was mentioned as perhaps being approached to become caretaker Chairman after Mr Strong's death.

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Interesting move, but makes no sense at all to only partially clear a personal holding. Although, its not likely to be returning funds to shareholders in the 2013 financial year

Mr Cochrane was mentioned as perhaps being approached to become caretaker Chairman after Mr Strong's death.

Mentioned where ?

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by cavvy

Mentioned where ?

Paddock discussion at Eastern Creek this weekend...

[rik]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Interesting move, but makes no sense at all to only partially clear a personal holding. Although, its not likely to be returning funds to shareholders in the 2013 financial year

Makes sense if his shareholders agreement says he can't sell it all at once!

Mr Cochrane was mentioned as perhaps being approached to become caretaker Chairman after Mr Strong's death.

What an insult to force him out and ask then for him to come back temporarily a few months later! Hardly surprising he said no! Archer seem to be losing the plot!

[D.R.T.]

Forced out?

Didnt he jump off the Titanic?

[cavvy]

Originally Posted by rik

Makes sense if his shareholders agreement says he can't sell it all at once!


What an insult to force him out and ask then for him to come back temporarily a few months later! Hardly surprising he said no! Archer seem to be losing the plot!

Got a bit of time for Archer but James Strong will take some replacing, & I cant see Archer & Coch0 together again any time soon.

[yap]

Hadn't heard much of him for a while, but he has popped back up as the new Chairman of the Gold Coast Suns

Story here

[TWRv12]

He's also doing some consulting with Global Rallycross