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1986 RAC British Saloon Car Championship - Discussion & Results

1986 RAC Tricentrol British Touring Car Championship

Classes:
Class A: 2501-3600 cc
Class B: 1601-2500 cc
Class C: 1301-1600 cc
Class D: under 1300 cc

Only 9 rounds for 1986 and in the 1983-1990 period this is the one I know the least of. The 1300 cc class I have read about either here or on the Nostalgia Forum. These are also the source for most other info I've gathered about 1986.

Round 1 – April 13 1986, Silverstone

1./ #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
2./ #? / Dennis Leech / Leech / A / Rover Vitesse
? / #? / Peter Lovett / Hughes of Beaconsfield / A / Toyota Celica Supra
? / #? / Barry Barnes / Mann's Garage / A / BMW 635CSi
? / #? / Rob Kirby / Alfa Romeo Dealer Team / B / Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5


Round 2 – May 26 1986, Thruxton

1./ #? / Mike Newman / Newman / A / BMW 635CSi
? / #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole

Round 3 – June 8 1986, Silverstone

1./ #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
DSQ / #? / Brian Chatfield / Chatfield / A / Ford Capri 3.0S / disqualified for underweight

Round 4 – June 15 1986, Donington Park

1./ #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole

Round 5 – July 13 1986, Brands Hatch

1./ #20 / Jeff Allam / TWR / A / Rover Vitesse
2./ #22 / Jean-Louis Schlesser / TWR / A / Rover Vitesse / pole
10./ #? / Brian Chatfield / Chatfield / A / Ford Capri 3.0S
? / #? / Dennis Leech / Leech / A / Rover Vitesse
? / #? / David Brodie / Brodie / A / Mitsubishi Starion Turbo
? / #? / Neil McGrath / Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
? / #? / Mike O'Brien / Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
? / #? / David Sears / Hughes of Beaconsfield / A / Toyota Celica Supra
? / #? / Mark Hales / Terry Drury / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo
? / #? / Roger Saunders / unknown / B / Renault 5 GT Turbo
? / #? / Chris Maries / unknown / B / Renault 5 GT Turbo
? / #? / Colin Pearcy / unknown / B / MG Metro Turbo
? / #? / Martin Carroll / unknown / B / Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 / prod. saloon
? / #? / Mike Smith? / unknown / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo / prod. Saloon
? / #? / Chris Hodgetts / CHMS / C / Toyota Corolla GT / class win
? / #? / Mikael Sundström / Peugeot Sport UK / C / Peugeot 205 GTI / second in class
? / #? / Tony Crudgington / Crudgington / C / Toyota Corolla GT
? / #? / Paul Taft / Brooklyn / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
? / #? / Alan Minshaw / CHMS / C / Toyota Corolla GT
? / #? / Alastair Davidson / unknown / C / Ford Fiesta XR2
? / #? / Nick Sismey / unknown / C / Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti
? / #? / Richard Belcher / Julian May-N.Essex Ms. / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
? / #? / Tony Lanfranchi / Monorep / D / Vauxhall Nova
? / #? / James Kaye / Containerships / D / Vauxhall Nova

Round 6 – August 10 1986, Snetterton

1./ #? / Peter Hall / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti
? / #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
DNF / #? / Brian Chatfield / Chatfield / A / Ford Capri 3.0S / engine

Round 7 – August 25 1986, Brands Hatch
Race shortened from 40 to 20 laps due to rain. 13 group A cars and a number Ford Escort XR3 race school cars and their instructors started the race.

1./ #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
2./ #? / Mike O'Brien / Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
3./ #? / Mikael Sundström / Peugeot Sport UK / C / Peugeot 205 GTI / started 13. - class winner

Round 8 – September 14 1986, Donington Park

1./ #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole

Round 9 – October 5 1986, Silverstone

1./ #? / David Brodie / Brodie / A / Mitsubishi Starion Turbo
? / #? / Colin Pearcy / unknown / B / MG Metro Turbo
? / #? / Barry Robinson / T.W. Robinson Demolition, SDC Builders / A / BMW 635CSi

Championship positions (from the BTCC page)

1.Chris Hodgetts (85 points) CHMS / C / Toyota Corolla GT
2.Richard Longman (70 points) Datapost / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo
3.Andy Rouse (57 points) Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti
4.Rob Kirby (42 points) ARDT / B / Alfa Romeo GTV6 and 75 V6
5.Mike Newman (39 points) Newman / A / BMW 635CSi
6.Pete Hall (36 points)
7.Alan Curnow (33 points) Datapost / B or C? / Ford Escort RS
7.Paul Taft (33 points) Brooklyn / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
9.Tony Lanfranchi (26 points) Monorep / D / Vauxhall Nova
10.Jon Dooley (23 points) ARDT / B / Alfa Romeo 75 V6
10.Tony Crudgington (23 points) Crudgington / C / Toyota Corolla GT
12.Mark Hales (21 points)
13.Mikael Sundström (14 points) Peugeot Sport UK / C / Peugeot 205 GTI
14.Mike O'Brien (11 points) Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
15.Jeff Allam (10 points) TWR / A / Rover Vitesse
15.James Kaye (10 points) Containerships / D / Vauxhall Nova
15.Dennis Leech (10 points) Leech / A / Rover Vitesse
15.Alan Minshaw (10 points) CHMS / C / Toyota Corolla GT
19.Alistair Davidson (8 points) unknown / C / Ford Fiesta XR2
20.Colin Pearcy (7 points) Pearcy? / B / MG Metro Turbo
20.Jean-Louis Schlesser (7 points) TWR / A / Rover Vitesse
22.Neil McGrath (6 points) Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
23.Lionel Abbott (4 points) unknown / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
23.Geoff Kimber-Smith (4 points) AGK / C / Toyota Corolla GT
23.David Sears (4 points) Hughes of Beaconsfield / A / Toyota Celica Supra
26.Peter Lovett (3 points) Hughes of Beaconsfield / A / Toyota Celica Supra
27.Nick Sismey (3 points) unknown / C / Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti
27.Roger Saunders (3 points) unknown / B / Renault 5 GT Turbo
29.Brian Chatfield (2 points) Chatfield / A / Ford Capri 3.0S, also a BMW 635CSi?
29.Richard Belcher (2 points) North Essex Motorsport / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
31.Barry Barnes (1 point) Mann's Garage / A / BMW 635CSi

Time to knod off for today.

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1986 RAC Tricentrol British Touring Car Championship

Classes:
Class A: 2501-3600 cc
Class B: 1601-2500 cc
Class C: 1301-1600 cc
Class D: under 1300 cc

Only 9 rounds for 1986 and in the 1983-1990 period this is the one I know the least of. The 1300 cc class I have read about either here or on the Nostalgia Forum. These are also the source for most other info I've gathered about 1986.

Round 1 – April 13 1986, Silverstone

1./ #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
2./ #4 / Dennis Leech / Leech / A / Rover Vitesse
3./#2/Peter Hall/Rouse/A/Rover Vitesse
4./ #9 / Peter Lovett / Hughes of Beaconsfield / A / Toyota Celica Supra
5./#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo- 1st Class B
6./#??/Mike Newman/Burlington/A/BMW 635CSi
7 / #? / Rob Kirby / Alfa Romeo Dealer Team / B / Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5
8. / #?? / Barry Barnes / Mann's Garage / A / BMW 635CSi
9./#66/Chris Hodgetts/CHMS-Toyota GB/C/Toyota Corolla GT- 1st Cl. C
10./#62?/Tony Crudgington/Crudgington/C/Toyota Corolla GT
11./#77?/Geoff Kimber-Smith/AGK/C/Toyota Corolla GT
12./#69/Paul Taft/Brooklyn/C/Ford Escort RS1600i

DNF
#38/Mark Hales/Drury/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
#33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo



Round 2 – May 26 1986, Thruxton

1./ #5? / Mike Newman / Newman / A / BMW 635CSi
2./ #1 / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
3./#30/Rob Kirby/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6- 1st Class B
4./#66/Chris Hodgetts/CHMS-Toyota GB/C/Toyota Corolla GT- 1st Class C
5./#69/Paul Taft/Brooklyn/C/Ford Escort RS1600i
6./#31/Jon Dooley/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75V6
7./#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
8./#33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
9./#2/Peter Hall/Rouse/A/Rover Vitesse
10./#??/Lionel Abbott/Abbott/Ford Escort RS1600i
11./#??/Alastair Davidson/Davidson/Ford Fiesta XR2

DNF
#38/Mark Hales/Drury/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
#4/Dennis Leech/Leech/A/Rover Vitesse
#7?/Mike O'Brien/Linden/A/Rover Vitesse


Round 3 – June 8 1986, Silverstone

1./ #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
2./#7?/Neil McGrath/Linden/A/Rover Vitesse
3./#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo- 1st Class B
4./#2/Peter Hall/Rouse/A/Rover Vitesse
5./#33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
6./#5/Mike Newman/Newman/A/BMW 635CSi
7./#66/Chris Hodgetts/CHMS/C/Toyota Corolla GT- 1st Class C
8./#69/Paul Taft/Brooklyn/C/Ford Escort RS1600i
9./#62?/Tony Crudgington/Crudgington/C/Toyota Corolla GT
10./#30/Rob Kirby/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
11./#??/Alistair Davidson/Davidson/C/Ford Fiesta XR2
12./#??/Tony Lanfranchi/Monorep/D/Vauxhall Nova Sport
DSQ / #? / Brian Chatfield / Chatfield / A / Ford Capri 3.0S / disqualified for underweight
DNF
#38/Mark Hales/Drury/Ford Escort RS Turbo
#31/Jon Dooley/ARDT/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
DNS
#4/Dennis Leech/Leech/Rover Vitesse


Round 4 – June 15 1986, Donington Park

1./ #1 / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
2./#5/Mike Newman/Newman/A/BMW 635CSi
3./#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo- 1st Class B
4./#66/Chris Hodgetts/CHMS/C/Toyota Corolla GT- 1st Class C
5./#30/Rob Kirby/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
6./#69/Paul Taft/Brooklyn/C/Ford Escort RS1600i
7./#62/Tony Crudgington/C/Toyota Corolla GT

DNF
#38/Mark Hales/Drury/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
#2/Peter Hall/Rouse/A/Rover Vitesse
#31/Jon Dooley/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
#33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo

DNS
#7?/Mike O'Brien/Linden/A/Rover Vitesse
#4/Dennis Leech/Leech/A/Rover Vitesse


Round 5 – July 13 1986, Brands Hatch

1./ #20 / Jeff Allam / TWR / A / Rover Vitesse
2./ #22 / Jean-Louis Schlesser / TWR / A / Rover Vitesse / pole
3 / #9? / David Sears / Hughes of Beaconsfield / A / Toyota Celica Supra
4 / #4 / Dennis Leech / Leech / A / Rover Vitesse
5./#2/Peter Hall/Rouse/A/Rover Vitesse
6./ #7 / Mike O'Brien / Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
7./#5/Mike Newman/Newman/A/BMW 635CSi
8./#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo- 1st Class B
9./#30/Rob Kirby/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
10/ #? / Brian Chatfield / Chatfield / A / Ford Capri 3.0S
11 / #? / Colin Pearcy / Pearcy / B / MG Metro Turbo
12 / #66 / Chris Hodgetts / CHMS-Toyota GB / C / Toyota Corolla GT / class win
13 / #77 / Alan Minshaw / CHMS-Demon Tweeks / C / Toyota Corolla GT
14 / #61 / Mikael Sundström / Peugeot Sport UK / C / Peugeot 205 GTI
15 / #? / Nick Sismey / Sismey / C / Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti
16 / #? / Roger Saunders / Saunders / B / Renault 5 GT Turbo
17 / #? / James Kaye / Containerships / D / Vauxhall Nova- 1st Class D
18 / #38 / Mark Hales / Terry Drury / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo
19./ #33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
20./#??/David Grimshaw/Grimshaw/B/Renault 5GT Turbo
21./#??/David Gibson/Gibson/B/Renault 5GT Turbo
22./#?/Anthony Pownall/Pownall/B/Renault 5GT Turbo
23./#? / Alastair Davidson / unknown / C / Ford Fiesta XR2
24 / #? / Tony Lanfranchi / Monorep / D / Vauxhall Nova
NCF/#31/Jon Dooley/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6- Not classified- 5 laps down

DNF
#1/Andy Rouse/Rouse/A/Ford Sierra XR4Ti
#62? / Tony Crudgington / Crudgington / C / Toyota Corolla GT
#3? / David Brodie / Brodie / A / Mitsubishi Starion Turbo
#6? / Neil McGrath / Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
#? / Richard Belcher / Julian May-N.Essex Ms. / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
#? / Martin Carroll / unknown / B / Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 / prod. saloon
? / #? / Paul Taft / Brooklyn / C / Ford Escort RS1600i

Result unknown
? / #? / Chris Maries / unknown / B / Renault 5 GT Turbo
? / #? / Mike Smith? / unknown / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo / prod. Saloon


Round 6 – August 10 1986, Snetterton

1./ #2 / Peter Hall / Rouse / A / Rover Vitesse
2./#5/Mike Newman/Newman/A/BMW 635CSi
3./#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo- 1st Class B
4./#33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
5./#38/Mark Hales/Drury/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
6./#31/Jon Dooley/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
7./#66/Chris Hodgetts/CHMS/C/Toyota Corolla GT- 1st Class C
8./#30/Rob Kirby/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
9./#69/Paul Taft/Brooklyn/C/Ford Escort RS1600i
10./#77/Alan Minshaw/CHMS-Demon Tweeks/C/Toyota Corolla GT
11./#??/Tony Lanfranchi/Monorep/D/Vauxhall Nova Sport/1st Class D

DNF / #1? / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
DNF/ #??/Mike O'Brien/Linden/A/Rover Vitesse
DNF / #? / Brian Chatfield / Chatfield / A / Ford Capri 3.0S / engine
DNF/#??/Richard Belcher/North Essex/C/Ford Escort RS1600i
DNS/#62/Tony Crudgington/Crudgington/C/Toyota Corolla GT




Round 7 – August 25 1986, Brands Hatch
Race shortened from 40 to 20 laps due to rain. 13 group A cars and a number Ford Escort XR3 race school cars and their instructors started the race.

1./ #1 Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
2./ #? / Mike O'Brien / Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
3./ #61/Mikael Sundström / Peugeot Sport UK / C / Peugeot 205 GTI / started 13. - class winner
4./#2/Peter Hall/Rouse/A/Rover Vitesse
5./#66/Chris Hodgetts/CHMS/C/Toyota Corolla GT
6./#33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
7./#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
8./#5/Mike Newman/Newman/BMW 635CSi
9./#31/Jon Dooley/ARDT//Alfa Rome 75 V6
10./#38/Mark Hales/Drury/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
11./#30/Rob Kirby/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
12?/#62/Tony Crudgington/Crudgington/C/Toyota Corolla GT

DNF/#69/Paul Taft/Brooklyn/C/Ford Escort RS1600i

XR3s....
Not sure if these ran as part of Class C or as a separate 'Invitation' class, or whether they were even classified as part of the BTCC race result. The Autosport version of the result ignores them altogether...
1./#??/Stuart Cole/Brands Hatch Racing/?/Ford Escort XR3i
2./#??/Chris Creswell/Brands Hatch Racing/?/Ford Escort XR3i
Cole finished 12th or 13th overall?
There were about half-a-dozen more XR3is, I'm not sure at the moment who the drivers were- Autosport only mentions Cole & Creswell. Does anyone have the race report from Motoring News, as I think this might have included all of the XR3s?


Round 8 – September 14 1986, Donington Park

1./ #1 / Andy Rouse / Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti / pole
2./#5/Mike Newman/Newman/A/BMW 635CSi
3./#7?/Mike O'Brien/Linden/A/Rover Vitesse
4./#2/Peter Hall/Rouse/A/Rover Vitesse
5./#38/Mark Hales/Drury/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo- 1st Class B
6./#31/Jon Dooley/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
7./#66/Chris Hodgetts/CHMS/C/Toyota Corolla GT-1st Class C
8./#30/Rob Kirby/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6

DNF
#69/Paul Taft/Brooklyn/C/Ford Escort RS1600i
#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
#33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
#62/Tony Crudgington/Crudgington/C/Toyota Corolla GT


Round 9 – October 5 1986, Silverstone

1./ #3 / David Brodie / Brodie / A / Mitsubishi Starion Turbo
2./#2/Peter Hall/Rouse/A/Rover Vitesse
3./#44/Richard Longman/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo- 1st Class B
4./#5/Mike Newman/Newman/A/BMW 635CSi
5./#33/Alan Curnow/Datapost/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
6./#30/Jon Dooley/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
7./#31/Rob Kirby/ARDT/B/Alfa Romeo 75 V6
8./#66/Chris Hodgetts/CHMS/C/Toyota Corolla GT
9./#69/Paul Taft/Brooklyn/C/Ford Escort RS1600i
10./#62/Tony Crudgington/Crudgington/C/Toyota Corolla GT
11./#77?/Barry Sheene/CHMS/C/Toyota Corolla GT
12./#??/Colin Pearcy / Pearcy/ B / MG Metro Turbo
13./#??/Richard Belcher/North Essex/C/Ford Escort RS1600i

DNF
#4/Dennis Leech/Leech/A/Rover Vitesse
#7?/Mike O'Brien/Linden/A/Rover Vitesse
#1/Andy Rouse/Rouse/A/Ford Sierra XR4Ti (pole)
#38/Mark Hales/Drury/B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
#? / Barry Robinson / T.W. Robinson Demolition, SDC Builders / A / BMW 635CSi

Championship positions (from the BTCC page)

1.Chris Hodgetts (85 points) CHMS / C / Toyota Corolla GT
2.Richard Longman (70 points) Datapost / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo
3.Andy Rouse (57 points) Rouse / A / Ford Sierra XR4Ti
4.Rob Kirby (42 points) ARDT / B / Alfa Romeo GTV6 and 75 V6
5.Mike Newman (39 points) Newman / A / BMW 635CSi
6.Pete Hall (36 points) Rouse-ICS/A/Rover Vitesse
7.Alan Curnow (33 points) Datapost / B / Ford Escort RS Turbo
7.Paul Taft (33 points) Brooklyn / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
9.Tony Lanfranchi (26 points) Monorep / D / Vauxhall Nova
10.Jon Dooley (23 points) ARDT / B / Alfa Romeo 75 V6
10.Tony Crudgington (23 points) Crudgington / C / Toyota Corolla GT
12.Mark Hales (21 points) Terry Drury/ B/Ford Escort RS Turbo
13.Mikael Sundström (14 points) Peugeot Sport UK / C / Peugeot 205 GTI
14.Mike O'Brien (11 points) Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
15.Jeff Allam (10 points) TWR / A / Rover Vitesse
15.James Kaye (10 points) Containerships / D / Vauxhall Nova
15.Dennis Leech (10 points) Leech / A / Rover Vitesse
15.Alan Minshaw (10 points) CHMS / C / Toyota Corolla GT
19.Alistair Davidson (8 points) Davidson/ C / Ford Fiesta XR2
20.Colin Pearcy (7 points) Pearcy/ B / MG Metro Turbo
20.Jean-Louis Schlesser (7 points) TWR / A / Rover Vitesse
22.Neil McGrath (6 points) Linden / A / Rover Vitesse
23.Lionel Abbott (4 points) Abbott / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
23.Geoff Kimber-Smith (4 points) AGK / C / Toyota Corolla GT
23.David Sears (4 points) Hughes of Beaconsfield / A / Toyota Celica Supra
26.Peter Lovett (3 points) Hughes of Beaconsfield / A / Toyota Celica Supra
27.Nick Sismey (3 points) Sismey / C / Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti
27.Roger Saunders (3 points) Saunders/ B / Renault 5 GT Turbo
29.Brian Chatfield (2 points) Chatfield / A / Ford Capri 3.0S, also a BMW 635CSi? -Don't think Chatfield had a 635 in 1986- I think the car he used in '85 had been sold on to Mann's Garage/Barry Barnes?
29.Richard Belcher (2 points) North Essex Motorsport / C / Ford Escort RS1600i
31.Barry Barnes (1 point) Mann's Garage / A / BMW 635CSi

Time to knod off for today.
Jesper
Think that's all of '86.

Re the Class D Novas, IIRC, Lanfranchi's was his regular Monorep prodsaloon. Kaye's at the GP meeting might have been a full Group A Nova. Kaye raced a Nova in prodsaloons, but I dont recall whether Containerships were his regular sponsor or not- they did sponsor a 2-car Vauxhall rally team, running a Group A Astra GT/E (Tony Saddington) and Nova (Chris Birkbeck) with distinctive registration numbers.
If Containerships weren't his regular prodsaloon entrant, could Kaye have been using Birkbeck's rally Nova?
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Think that's all of '86.
Once again, thank you for your time and effort, KA. There were some very small grids every now and then as has been previously mentioned, but looking at the depleted results it's very striking.

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The results I have for 1986 R7 show the Escorts as class C.

Rouse
O'Brien
Sundstrom
Hall
Hodetts
Curnow
Longman
Newman
Dooley
Hales
Kirby
Cole XR3i
Creswell XR3i
Shortle XR3i
Rogers XR3i
Argetsinger XR3i
Crudgington
Edwards XR3i
Rogers XR3i
King XR3i
Taft
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??? How can I add to thread 98 ???

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The results I have for 1986 R7 show the Escorts as class C.

Rouse
O'Brien
Sundstrom
Hall
Hodetts
Curnow
Longman
Newman
Dooley
Hales
Kirby
Cole XR3i
Creswell XR3i
Shortle XR3i
Rogers XR3i
Argetsinger XR3i
Crudgington
Edwards XR3i
Rogers XR3i
King XR3i
Taft
Brilliant!- I've been trying to work out how many Escorts started and the rest of the drivers. Presumably that's the finishing order?

OK, so I knew we had Stuart Cole and Chris Creswell, but can you fill in the Christian names for the others?

I can guess a few going down the list- I'm pretty sure several of them were fairly well-known FF1600 faces of the period:
Rick Shortle?
Peter Rogers? (I suspect the other Rogers further down the list might be his sister Lucy, who as I recall also raced Formula Ford at the time?
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??? How can I add to thread 98 ???

If I "quote" it only comes up with the added comments.

Looking back at post 98, it's probably because I'd quoted Jesper's earlier post and added my information to that.

Might be a case of copying and pasting the original text from post 98 into a new post....
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First off, here's a link to the official BTCC page and their point standings for 1986:

http://www.btcc.net/html/history_sta...p?season_id=29

Some random thoughts about the season then.

Points seems to have been distributed according to the 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1 scale for top-6 positions regardless of competitors in the class. There was also no dropped scores – all rounds counted.
The second round at Thruxton must have been quite a freekish race, looking at the results. Mike Newman in the 635 beeting Andy Rouse for overall honours, while Rob Kirby won class B first time out with the brand new Alfa 75 V6. Changing weather conditions or the notorious abbrasive surface of the circuit?

Class A:
David Brodie won the final round, but is missing from the point standings – for not being registrated? He does figure as a ”ghost” as Pete Hall and Mike Newman, who finished second and third in class, only received 6 and 4 points for their achiements – and their total points tally match the official BTCC version.
Andy Rouse retiring in a third of the races.
David Sears mixing it nicely with the bunch of Rover V8s at the Brands Hatch GP support race. Sears did race a similar car in the Japanese series at the time for the private SARD team.
Jeff Allam and Jean-Louis Schlesser finished 1-2 at the Brands Hatch GP support race scoring 9 and 6 points, but listed with 10 and 7 respectively – did they share fastest lap or is the point standing slightly off.

Class B:
No Graham Goode Nissan Bluebird Turbo this year, although the car would appear with a new owner in 1987. So what did Goode do in 1986?
Mark Hales had a rotten start to the season with four straight retirements in the Terry Drury Escort.

Class C:
Barry Sheene was another ”ghost rider” receiving no points for his forth in class C at the Silverstone finals. Either Sheene or some one involved with the CHMS Clausthaler was telling the story in the Autosport series of ”Race of my life”. For some reason both Sheene and Chris Hodgetts started last 10 seconds after the rest of the grid was send off. Can't remember the reason for this, but will have a look for the story.
The Brands Hatch Racing school Escorts don't seem to have been competing for class C points at the Brands Hatch round 7 race. XR3i winner Stuart Cole would have been third in class, according to Carrera's list, but those 4 points seems to have gone to Tony Crudgington, who otherwise seems to have ended way out of the points.
Argetsinger could be American Mike Argetsinger. He raced in British F3 at some stage during the 1980s anyway.

Class D:
Tony Lanfranchi received a maximum score of 10 points unopposed twice during the season.

Another productive day about to end. Thank you KA and Carrera for your contributions and knowledge. Let your fingers flow, while I'll prepare something about the 1987 season. This is the only season for the 1983-1990 period where I have a complete set of Autosports to lean against, but more about that in due time.

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The second round at Thruxton must have been quite a freekish race, looking at the results. Mike Newman in the 635 beeting Andy Rouse for overall honours, while Rob Kirby won class B first time out with the brand new Alfa 75 V6. Changing weather conditions or the notorious abbrasive surface of the circuit?

I've got a feeling it might have been wet-

Class A:
David Brodie won the final round, but is missing from the point standings – for not being registrated? He does figure as a ”ghost” as Pete Hall and Mike Newman, who finished second and third in class, only received 6 and 4 points for their achiements – and their total points tally match the official BTCC version.
Andy Rouse retiring in a third of the races.
David Sears mixing it nicely with the bunch of Rover V8s at the Brands Hatch GP support race. Sears did race a similar car in the Japanese series at the time for the private SARD team.
Jeff Allam and Jean-Louis Schlesser finished 1-2 at the Brands Hatch GP support race scoring 9 and 6 points, but listed with 10 and 7 respectively – did they share fastest lap or is the point standing slightly off.

Brodie might well have not registered for points-he only appeared a couple of times, and as I remember was running on a very tight budget since the end of official Mitsubishi support- As I remember he ran unsponsored at the GP meeting (I've got a vague memory that the Starion might have carried a slogan supporting British boxer Frank Bruno, in the absence of any sponsorship- I think Bruno fought Tim Witherspoon for the World heavyweight title shortly after the GP?) and probably with the 'Philips' backing carried at the TT on the car at the last round


Class B:
No Graham Goode Nissan Bluebird Turbo this year, although the car would appear with a new owner in 1987. So what did Goode do in 1986?
Mark Hales had a rotten start to the season with four straight retirements in the Terry Drury Escort.

I suspect Goode took a year out altogether- I don't think I remember him racing anywhere else on a regular basis

Class C:
Barry Sheene was another ”ghost rider” receiving no points for his forth in class C at the Silverstone finals. Either Sheene or some one involved with the CHMS Clausthaler was telling the story in the Autosport series of ”Race of my life”. For some reason both Sheene and Chris Hodgetts started last 10 seconds after the rest of the grid was send off. Can't remember the reason for this, but will have a look for the story.

Yes, I think there was a story behind this as well. Did Hodgetts and Sheene swap cars between qualifying and the race? Hodgetts had already tied up the chapionship before the last round IIRC, so there wasn't anything at risk by starting at the back of the grid, and going out to entertain the crowd.

The Brands Hatch Racing school Escorts don't seem to have been competing for class C points at the Brands Hatch round 7 race. XR3i winner Stuart Cole would have been third in class, according to Carrera's list, but those 4 points seems to have gone to Tony Crudgington, who otherwise seems to have ended way out of the points.
Argetsinger could be American Mike Argetsinger. He raced in British F3 at some stage during the 1980s anyway.

I suspect the School Escorts weren't classified for points- I've just had a look at the Autosport version of the race report, and although they're mentioned a couple of times, they're not listed in the results table, which has Crudgington in 12th behind Kirby. The only reference to a finishing order for the Escorts is in the text of the report, where it says 'In the XR3i section, Stuart Cole won from Chris Creswell'. I think Motoring News might have listed them as part of the overall race result, and certainly listed all the drivers. I wonder if that's the source of Carrera's race result? (Either that or having been at Brands on the day)
Unfortuntely, I only kept my old Autosports, not the MNs- though frustratingly, I did keep a lot of the BTCC reports, but that one seems to be missing from the file...

Class D:
Tony Lanfranchi received a maximum score of 10 points unopposed twice during the season.

Yes, the return of the 1300cc class was a real farce- Lanfranchi raced unopposed most of the time, apart from the GP support, where James Kaye beat him easily- I suspect with a rather more highly-prepared 'proper' Group A Nova compared to Lanfranchi's prodsaloon.
I think Roger Dowson announced plans to run a 1300cc Metro (Presumably one of the ex-Computervision Metro Turbos in non-turbo form), possibly for Robin Brundle?, but the deal fell through

Another productive day about to end. Thank you KA and Carrera for your contributions and knowledge. Let your fingers flow, while I'll prepare something about the 1987 season. This is the only season for the 1983-1990 period where I have a complete set of Autosports to lean against, but more about that in due time.

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No problems- doing this has filled a few gaps in my 1983/4 results as well as encouraging me to dig out some old magazines to check a few details for those seasons- More of that later
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First off, here's a link to the official BTCC page and their point standings for 1986:

http://www.btcc.net/html/history_sta...p?season_id=29

Some random thoughts about the season then.

Points seems to have been distributed according to the 9, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1 scale for top-6 positions regardless of competitors in the class. There was also no dropped scores – all rounds counted.
The second round at Thruxton must have been quite a freekish race, looking at the results. Mike Newman in the 635 beeting Andy Rouse for overall honours, while Rob Kirby won class B first time out with the brand new Alfa 75 V6. Changing weather conditions or the notorious abbrasive surface of the circuit?

Class A:
David Brodie won the final round, but is missing from the point standings – for not being registrated? He does figure as a ”ghost” as Pete Hall and Mike Newman, who finished second and third in class, only received 6 and 4 points for their achiements – and their total points tally match the official BTCC version.
I think KA is right that Brodie only did limited races due to lack of funding. I do seem to remember ATARI sponsorship appearing once though...
Andy Rouse retiring in a third of the races.
David Sears mixing it nicely with the bunch of Rover V8s at the Brands Hatch GP support race. Sears did race a similar car in the Japanese series at the time for the private SARD team.
Jeff Allam and Jean-Louis Schlesser finished 1-2 at the Brands Hatch GP support race scoring 9 and 6 points, but listed with 10 and 7 respectively – did they share fastest lap or is the point standing slightly off.

Class B:
No Graham Goode Nissan Bluebird Turbo this year, although the car would appear with a new owner in 1987. So what did Goode do in 1986?
For 1986 Graham Goode contested the Renault 5 Turbo Cup Championship which led to him running 3 customer cars in that the following season.
Mark Hales had a rotten start to the season with four straight retirements in the Terry Drury Escort.

Class C:
Barry Sheene was another ”ghost rider” receiving no points for his forth in class C at the Silverstone finals. Either Sheene or some one involved with the CHMS Clausthaler was telling the story in the Autosport series of ”Race of my life”. For some reason both Sheene and Chris Hodgetts started last 10 seconds after the rest of the grid was send off. Can't remember the reason for this, but will have a look for the story.
The Brands Hatch Racing school Escorts don't seem to have been competing for class C points at the Brands Hatch round 7 race. XR3i winner Stuart Cole would have been third in class, according to Carrera's list, but those 4 points seems to have gone to Tony Crudgington, who otherwise seems to have ended way out of the points.
Argetsinger could be American Mike Argetsinger. He raced in British F3 at some stage during the 1980s anyway.

Class D:
Tony Lanfranchi received a maximum score of 10 points unopposed twice during the season.
As KA said, the small class often only contained Lanfranchi (which makes me wonder why he scored so many points, I though there needed to be a certain number of class contenders for this to happen).

Another productive day about to end. Thank you KA and Carrera for your contributions and knowledge. Let your fingers flow, while I'll prepare something about the 1987 season. This is the only season for the 1983-1990 period where I have a complete set of Autosports to lean against, but more about that in due time.

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Think that's all of '86.

Re the Class D Novas, IIRC, Lanfranchi's was his regular Monorep prodsaloon. Kaye's at the GP meeting might have been a full Group A Nova. Kaye raced a Nova in prodsaloons, but I dont recall whether Containerships were his regular sponsor or not- they did sponsor a 2-car Vauxhall rally team, running a Group A Astra GT/E (Tony Saddington) and Nova (Chris Birkbeck) with distinctive registration numbers.
If Containerships weren't his regular prodsaloon entrant, could Kaye have been using Birkbeck's rally Nova?
More on the James Kaye Nova at the '86 British GP. It was apparently entered/sponsored by 'Containerships' who were active on the UK rally scene at the time with a pair of Vauxhalls in a distinctive yellow & white colourscheme, with equally distinctive registration numbers- '79BAT' on Birkbeck's Nova, and I think '68BAT' or similar on the Astra. I don't think I remember them being active in prodsaloons as well, but won't swear to this

If it was the Containerships Group A rally Nova that Kaye used at the GP meeting, rather than his own prodsaloon, then this could be the car in question (seen here with Chris Birkbeck on the Manx Rally)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/howiend...l-1273065@N23/

All we need now is a pic of Kaye at the GP....
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More on the James Kaye Nova at the '86 British GP. It was apparently entered/sponsored by 'Containerships' who were active on the UK rally scene at the time with a pair of Vauxhalls in a distinctive yellow & white colourscheme, with equally distinctive registration numbers- '79BAT' on Birkbeck's Nova, and I think '68BAT' or similar on the Astra. I don't think I remember them being active in prodsaloons as well, but won't swear to this

If it was the Containerships Group A rally Nova that Kaye used at the GP meeting, rather than his own prodsaloon, then this could be the car in question (seen here with Chris Birkbeck on the Manx Rally)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/howiend...l-1273065@N23/

All we need now is a pic of Kaye at the GP....
I can't supply a pic, but (report in Autosport) can confirm it was Birkbeck's Nova Sport, and Kaye's first time out on slick tyres.
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I can't supply a pic, but (report in Autosport) can confirm it was Birkbeck's Nova Sport, and Kaye's first time out on slick tyres.
Thanks Tim

Alternative link for the pic of the Birkbeck Nova- that first one only seemed to work for me when I was signed in on Flickr....
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As with the other 80's years i've separated them out from Craig's original BTCC thread into individual years for ease of reading/adding etc...
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Thank you, chunterer. This is most helpfull.

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