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Old 1 May 2017, 18:44 (Ref:3730416)   #61
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Hard for me to say for sure, but it is possible the Camero parked it a bit going into the corner to purposely slow the Panoz. Or maybe the braking points for each car are different and James just cut it too close.
It didn't look like that to me but data from both cars could answer that question. Also, when I'm on a corner (marshaling), I would have witnessed both cars getting in the braking zone for the corner numerous times - a late or early braking attempt would most probably been very noticeable.
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Old 1 May 2017, 19:04 (Ref:3730422)   #62
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If Mancinelli punting Kaffer warranted no action, this certainly should not have been a penalty.
*sorry, it was too late to edit my original post regarding your quote so I had to it like this*

You're referring to this incident I presume: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHqptyKnFBA

Edit: doing more reviewing...

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Old 2 May 2017, 06:39 (Ref:3730487)   #63
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Ugh, i think they removed all the last weekend race off from youtube.

Guess it was a mistake...
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Old 2 May 2017, 14:38 (Ref:3730572)   #64
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Damn...
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Old 2 May 2017, 17:24 (Ref:3730592)   #65
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Johnny O's Sportscar365 debrief is pretty informative:
http://sportscar365.com/features/com...l-vir-debrief/
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Old 2 May 2017, 18:28 (Ref:3730603)   #66
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None of this adds up.

http://sportscar365.com/world-challe...-timing-error/

http://sportscar365.com/world-challe...ace-1-results/

http://sportscar365.com/features/com...l-vir-debrief/

Timeline:

Race 1 happens
Teams penalised during race for pit stop violation.
Engineers investigate and discover an error
PWC acknowledges error, will adjust results and adjusts pit stop times for Race 2
Race 2 happens
PWC announces there was no error, and Race 1 will not be adjusted.

So was there an error or wasn't there?
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Old 2 May 2017, 19:00 (Ref:3730613)   #67
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Here's the clip of the last lap with the battle for 3rd spot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKGtQpwdeYE

The weaving looks "pro-active" to me, i.e. Aschenbach started the changing of the lane - which he did several times - and James shadowed him. This is allowed, unlike when you respond to a lane change from car directly behind you. The contact James made going into 14 to unsettle the Camaro so he could pull aside and ultimately ahead was deemed unfair [it's contact made with an advantage gained (swap of positions)], hence the penalty. Makes sense to me.
I disagree. Aschenbach should have hit him harder in the following corner. Weaving = bump in my mind. That was a great race ruined retroactively.

Thanks for the link!
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Old 3 May 2017, 13:07 (Ref:3730748)   #68
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None of this adds up.

http://sportscar365.com/world-challe...-timing-error/

http://sportscar365.com/world-challe...ace-1-results/

http://sportscar365.com/features/com...l-vir-debrief/

Timeline:

Race 1 happens
Teams penalised during race for pit stop violation.
Engineers investigate and discover an error
PWC acknowledges error, will adjust results and adjusts pit stop times for Race 2
Race 2 happens
PWC announces there was no error, and Race 1 will not be adjusted.

So was there an error or wasn't there?
I gave up trying to make sense of this weekend.
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Old 3 May 2017, 14:30 (Ref:3730758)   #69
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None of this adds up.

http://sportscar365.com/world-challe...-timing-error/

http://sportscar365.com/world-challe...ace-1-results/

http://sportscar365.com/features/com...l-vir-debrief/

Timeline:

Race 1 happens
Teams penalised during race for pit stop violation.
Engineers investigate and discover an error
PWC acknowledges error, will adjust results and adjusts pit stop times for Race 2
Race 2 happens
PWC announces there was no error, and Race 1 will not be adjusted.

So was there an error or wasn't there?
Yes
No
whatever

If I was a entrant/sponsor I would be pretty ****ed by the amateur way of things by PWC on this issue. And it's not the first time either. I'm not sure it's really any better in another series however but come on PWC folks: get your act together!
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Old 3 May 2017, 19:37 (Ref:3730818)   #70
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Yes
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whatever

If I was a entrant/sponsor I would be pretty ****ed by the amateur way of things by PWC on this issue. And it's not the first time either. I'm not sure it's really any better in another series however but come on PWC folks: get your act together!
What else is amazing is they have had timed pit stops at VIR for years for the 13hr race (plus many of the pit stops are at night). In addition to that, Chumpcar races. How PWC couldn't get it right, is beyond me.
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Old 4 May 2017, 14:26 (Ref:3731008)   #71
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None of this adds up.

http://sportscar365.com/world-challe...-timing-error/

http://sportscar365.com/world-challe...ace-1-results/

http://sportscar365.com/features/com...l-vir-debrief/

Timeline:

Race 1 happens
Teams penalised during race for pit stop violation.
Engineers investigate and discover an error
PWC acknowledges error, will adjust results and adjusts pit stop times for Race 2
Race 2 happens
PWC announces there was no error, and Race 1 will not be adjusted.

So was there an error or wasn't there?
There was an error, but the FCY between the penalties being taken and the finish of the race made it so they couldn't figure out a fair way to score the race so they just left it.

At least that's what I'm going with.
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Old 4 May 2017, 19:14 (Ref:3731068)   #72
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There was an error, but the FCY between the penalties being taken and the finish of the race made it so they couldn't figure out a fair way to score the race so they just left it.

At least that's what I'm going with.
Too bad I was not able to watch the PWC race at Virginia Int'l. But I was able to still see online streaming of International GT Open and ADAC GT Masters. And they run guess what...60 minute races! So yeah I'm not desperate to see PWC if they won't make their content available without the subscription.
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Old 4 May 2017, 19:22 (Ref:3731073)   #73
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I watched both races for free and live on the Motor Trend website.
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Old 4 May 2017, 19:23 (Ref:3731074)   #74
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Too bad I was not able to watch the PWC race at Virginia Int'l. But I was able to still see online streaming of International GT Open and ADAC GT Masters. And they run guess what...60 minute races! So yeah I'm not desperate to see PWC if they won't make their content available without the subscription.
When the live stream is available, it's free on their website and MTOD. But if you're just talking about watching on-demand, then yes, you do need the subscription
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