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31 Jan 2005, 02:46 (Ref:1213494)
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Williams FW27-Debuts
The new BMW WilliamsF1's car, FW27, will be launched to the public today, with the presentation commencing at 11:30 at the Valencia circuit.
The name of the teams second 2005 driver will also be announced. The FW27 will also be put through some initial runs by the team prior to the start of testing. http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s107/st65880.htm Last edited by Led ZeppF1; 31 Jan 2005 at 02:47. |
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31 Jan 2005, 08:32 (Ref:1213583)
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Oooh, can't wait to see who's gonna get the second seat!
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31 Jan 2005, 09:44 (Ref:1213614)
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Is there a webcast or anything?
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31 Jan 2005, 11:20 (Ref:1213682)
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I've been searching all over, and this is the only shot (apart from a long distance fisheyed one) so far.
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31 Jan 2005, 11:25 (Ref:1213686)
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Ooo, a very high nose there twig. It may be exaggerated by the camera angle perhaps, but the gap between the nose and the wing seems bigger than some other cars.
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31 Jan 2005, 11:43 (Ref:1213691)
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it's huge compared to ferrari's 2004m
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31 Jan 2005, 11:50 (Ref:1213696)
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Some first impressions (there are one or two other pictures knocking around now): They've gone back to single keel, with twin-keel-like protrusions being present as mountings for turning vanes - a bit like McLaren, except that McLaren have gone for a different suspension geometry with a "zero-keel". The sidepods just keep on getting smaller - very low from front to back. Chimneys are huge and blow over large winglets in the "Renault" way. Can't see very well how the exhausts are done. Front wing has a BAR-like centre dip - not quite as pronounced in its transition. |
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31 Jan 2005, 11:51 (Ref:1213697)
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31 Jan 2005, 12:42 (Ref:1213728)
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31 Jan 2005, 12:46 (Ref:1213733)
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Doesn't look like too much of a "looker" from the pictures I can see.
I'll reserve my full judgement till we see pics later on from the track test. EDIT: Pics are up... http://www.f1racing.net/en/gallery.php?catID=1482 Last edited by Sodemo; 31 Jan 2005 at 12:49. |
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31 Jan 2005, 12:46 (Ref:1213734)
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http://www.f1racing.nl/nl/gallery.php?catID=1482
Pictures without the lame watermark that sutton has.... 
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31 Jan 2005, 12:51 (Ref:1213738)
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just seen it - nothing massive to shout about - one for the techies to analyse I think
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31 Jan 2005, 13:44 (Ref:1213786)
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it's better than the car they started last year
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31 Jan 2005, 14:01 (Ref:1213800)
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From the very blunt to the very pointy. The walrus was a good car, all the same - it had these very low sidepods which they have continued with, although they made them much more swoopy mid-season last year.
As a Williams fan I have to say that I am pretty pleased - they seem to be well up there in terms of packaging and are probably leading the way when it comes to the all-important sidepods and cut-away to the rear. They have also gone back to the single keel, which is encouraging considering that tyre usage is going to be critical this year (I wonder if that, rather than aerodynamics, was a factor in the McLaren changes to front suspension). Add in the good old BMW horses (I'd be surprised if Merc catch up this year, Renault ditto, and Honda have reliability issues already) and a couple of excellent drivers and there's plenty to get excited about for a Williams fan. |
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31 Jan 2005, 14:52 (Ref:1213826)
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All the new cars seem to be following along with the "swoopy" front wing shape, but I can't say that I find it very attractive..it looks very busy..but I guess if it works it works!
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31 Jan 2005, 16:48 (Ref:1213896)
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Just seen on the BBC website Heinfield has signed as the other driver...
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31 Jan 2005, 16:50 (Ref:1213898)
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31 Jan 2005, 17:06 (Ref:1213909)
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Don't like the car.
The front end looks too long and the nose is too high for my liking. I am quite intrigued by the tiny sidepods, must cut down on drag... Is the car longer than last years? I think the best Williams of recent years for looks was the 2003 FW25. Last edited by Sodemo; 31 Jan 2005 at 17:11. |
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31 Jan 2005, 17:10 (Ref:1213912)
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Tidy.
The most striking thing about this Williams, for me, is just how small it seems. It's tiny! Although I'll probably find out that it's the biggest car out there once I read up on it! |
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31 Jan 2005, 17:25 (Ref:1213922)
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Apparently BMW had to can its development of the P85 engine (according to Dr Theissen) as the rules for the 2005 season were confirmed so late they had already spent X amount of $ in development, so much for saving engine manufacturer's money?!
He goes on to say that Williams BMW will use an evolution of last years P84 engine, which doesn't sound too good to me... Last edited by Sodemo; 31 Jan 2005 at 17:26. |
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31 Jan 2005, 17:27 (Ref:1213923)
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Well that is the logic of the sports governing body I'm afraid.....
That doesn't bode well, will they just have a development of the '04 engine in or a relatively untried, all new engine still? Because everyone else has brand new engines.... |
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31 Jan 2005, 17:57 (Ref:1213948)
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Its interesting, ive just noticed the BMW signage has almost vanished, its just tucked away near the back of the car, obscured by a load of mini - wings, see this pic...
http://f1.racing-live.com/photos/200.../diapo_123.jpg There is the big "BMW Power" on the back of the rear wing though I guess. Last edited by Sodemo; 31 Jan 2005 at 17:59. |
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31 Jan 2005, 18:07 (Ref:1213957)
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31 Jan 2005, 18:08 (Ref:1213960)
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The new Williams seems nice to me.
Nothing revolutionary in particular, but some good evolutions of last year car. It seems smaller than previous model and the whole design is more balanced. I bet it will be a good contender. G |
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31 Jan 2005, 18:36 (Ref:1213986)
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Car doesnt seem as radical as the preceding launches but performance is the real measure of beauty. Very high nose, they must be working off of a different aero theory.... again
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