Engine Efficiency

[dedieux]

Is it true that putting "magnets" around the air and fuel intakes of an engine increases its efficiency and reduces its exaust gases?

Can anyone explain the science behind this?

Please take a look at the following:

http://www.eureka.findlay.co.uk/arch...ts/Magnets.htm

http://www.wholly-water.com/d.cgi/BO...etizerAuto.htm

http://www.akra.pl/politechang.htm

[RWC]

bloody good question.Alot of experts rubbish it(idiots-they didn't even try to think about it)Some suposedly sensible,independant people have tested these sorts of things & if i remember rightly,some of the results were definitely positive.Did they test them properly?!Who knows.

Incedently there was a similar magnetic device available for farm irrigation water.The idea was that it ionized the water(more negatively(?)charged atoms if i remember right?)which then bonded more readily with the anions(or was that cations) in the soil thereby making water use more efficient for the plant.Having said that,they may have quoted the an independant goverment scientist out of context.(He stated that the theory would work but-how long does the effect last along the irrigation pipe while on the way to the field?!...2km?100m?2cm?!)they didn't quote ANY tests or results to do with the OVERALL effect or results.


Now...a motor is abit different from soil(oh really?) but i can imagine a few ways that magnitizing may help.I too would be interested in the true theory & results anyone has had

[DavyboyLT1]

Car and Driver (or maybe R&T) magazine did a test with these magnets a few years back (sorry, I don't remember which issue).

They didn't find any substantial gains in performance or efficiency, I recall.

[DAVID PATERSON]

Two atoms bumped into each other, and this ensued.

1. Gee, I'm sorry mate, are you OK?
2. No, I think I've lost an electron.
1. Are you sure?
2. Yes I'm positive.

[DavyboyLT1]

Now that's VERY witty!

[KC]

I know that ionizing water can alter its flow and absorption rates due to the reduction in surface tension. I have seen ionizing systems for swimming pools that do this. It also allows heavy elements, such as iron, to be easily filtered out. The Wire Electric Discharge Machines I ran at my previous job used ionized water to control iron content to reduce rust and oxidation on the work pieces and improve conductivity.

I doubt that using a magnet alters airflow very much because it would not be powerful enough. I have seen all kinds of "black boxes" sold here in the US that supposedly increase efficiency, improve power and mileage without using power from the car and none have ever proved to anything other than snake oil scams.

[Izzy]

Early last year at tec (I’m doing a dip. in applied technology) we where given 4 sets of these magnets (MAGNETIZER) to test on different cars. The idea is you put one magnet around the air intake witch negatively charges it and one around the fuel line (positive charge). When the fuel and air meet they are attracted to each other and burn more efficiently. We dyno tested the cars first, fitted the magnets then dyno tested them again. I can’t remember the exact figures but I know there was a gain in horsepower. I’ll get and get the figures when I get back to tec.

[av8rirl]

Izzy: That is interesting. Try to dig out the figures and maybe give some more info on the magnets.

[RWC]

Izzy that makes sense.

[DavyboyLT1]

Originally posted by av8rirl
Izzy: That is interesting. Try to dig out the figures and maybe give some more info on the magnets.

I'd like to see some more info too.

I would assume that the magnets would need to be fairly powerful, though. Like I said, though I'm assuming.

The magazine test that I remembered (see my earlier post) involved a commercially available product at the time (early '90's, I believe).

[Italian]

Im still confused how magnets help improve Engine Effieceny.

Is it an magnetic field that attracts the properties of fuel and the air intake?
Which would obvisouly lead to a better burn of the fuel. And giving more power to the engine, like the very old trains the more fire wood, more power. isnt how it works? :confused:

[Osella]

Are these devices legal on racing cars?

[Italian]

I would have to presume so its a magnet...

Anyone gotta a better reason? :confused:

[RWC]

If that magnets on the intake air & fuel thing was to work it would be from better fuel/air mixing.Because opposite charges attract.They allready use charged droplets in spraying coatings in manufacturing(including normal paint) and in agricultural spraying(droplets attracted to the tree)

[slaiman]

Yupp..it does works !!

don ask me how.....i got one of those stuff a long time back....it was in 1998, I used it in my Ford Laser 1.3 and the mileage improved, for the first 2 weeks it was not effective after that there was abt 15% improvement.

I would say go for it....man !!!