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Old 20 Oct 2010, 11:31 (Ref:2777479)   #251
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the lotus racing flickr page has a huge number of photos of the circuit as it actually is at the moment. they're definitely worth a look so you can draw your own conclusions rather than go by what the press pack are saying.

find them here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lotusracing/
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Old 20 Oct 2010, 11:46 (Ref:2777485)   #252
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F1 Cost Cutting Measures, What a Joke!

Mr. E really knows how to grab the cash for these new venues. All of the issues he complains about in Europe seem to be a major problem in Korea but they will pay his exorbitant fees so he shuts his mouth while the teams spend a fortune:

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Photographer Darren Heath was less impressed with the journey, tackled by many in buses. "F1 in Seoul? Nah, let's have it in the middle of nowhere 100s of miles from anywhere," he wrote on Twitter".

Veteran Swiss correspondent Roger Benoit, writing in Blick newspaper, said the F1 track itself is an "enormous construction site", and his hotel room one of the ones usually rented by the hour. "No joke," he said.

Reportedly so unimpressed was Williams with the local accommodation on offer that the British team has committed to a three-hour round trip every day in order to stay in a nicer hotel.

Sauber's team manager Beat Zehnder complained about the cost of the team buildings, with the rent costing $40,000. "Whoever wants to use the upper floor must pay another $20,000," he said, "but everyone has decided to just use the ground floor! I'm already looking forward to the final races in Sao Paulo and Abu Dhabi!"
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Old 20 Oct 2010, 11:49 (Ref:2777488)   #253
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Looks like a race track to me!
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Old 20 Oct 2010, 11:55 (Ref:2777490)   #254
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To an earlier comment, I was actually kind of glad to see the straight from Turns 2 to 3 hemmed in by the walls like that.

I've been thinking a little, and had ideas for the names of a few sections of the Korea course. You could call that aforementioned straight "the Alley". I was thinking of calling the complex of Turns 4, 5, and 6 "the Pinch". From the second portion of Turn 11 around to the exit of Turn 16 could be "the Labyrinth", especially if those high-rises eventually go in. And Turn 17 can be the "Harbor Crescent", once that planned water feature there just outside the track has been built.
Woaaaaaah there mate, calm down, easy now... That's far too creative!!! You do realise they have perfectly good numbers for each turn??????

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Mr. E really knows how to grab the cash for these new venues. All of the issues he complains about in Europe seem to be a major problem in Korea but they will pay his exorbitant fees so he shuts his mouth while the teams spend a fortune:

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Photographer Darren Heath was less impressed with the journey, tackled by many in buses. "F1 in Seoul? Nah, let's have it in the middle of nowhere 100s of miles from anywhere," he wrote on Twitter".

Veteran Swiss correspondent Roger Benoit, writing in Blick newspaper, said the F1 track itself is an "enormous construction site", and his hotel room one of the ones usually rented by the hour. "No joke," he said.

Reportedly so unimpressed was Williams with the local accommodation on offer that the British team has committed to a three-hour round trip every day in order to stay in a nicer hotel.

Sauber's team manager Beat Zehnder complained about the cost of the team buildings, with the rent costing $40,000. "Whoever wants to use the upper floor must pay another $20,000," he said, "but everyone has decided to just use the ground floor! I'm already looking forward to the final races in Sao Paulo and Abu Dhabi!"
Ah diddums. I worked in Korea for about 6 weeks last year. The bus service works and is (very) clean, and taxis are cheap. Often Koreans (and visitors) drive 1hr at least too and from work.

Didn't use a hourly rate hotel though.
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Old 20 Oct 2010, 12:17 (Ref:2777501)   #256
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Reportedly so unimpressed was Williams with the local accommodation on offer that the British team has committed to a three-hour round trip every day in order to stay in a nicer hotel.
which brings it into line with the amount of time it takes to get to the circuit in quite a few of the countries which hold races near to the big cities - isn't hungary and turkey a major problem for that?

it seems to be there's a smear campaign being run by all these poor babies in f1. the venue has been approved by the fia and just like the commonwealth games, now is the time to shut up and get on with it.

as for the journo stuck in the dodgy hotel, do your research better next time...
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Old 20 Oct 2010, 17:44 (Ref:2777596)   #257
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Old 20 Oct 2010, 18:21 (Ref:2777606)   #258
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Isnt hungaroring pretty much in Budapest? Why would it take 3 hours to travel there?
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Old 20 Oct 2010, 18:33 (Ref:2777611)   #259
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a three hour round trip is 90 mins each way. and no, the hungaroring is a bit outside budapest, though like brands hatch is to london.
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According to Autosport, the drivers really like the S. Korean track.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87573
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It seems the main worry now is not the breaking up of the track but the expected ultra slippery surface due to the tarmac still 'bleeding oil' not having yet had the time to cure.

As Robert Kubica said, "Although we are prepared for slippery conditions, I think it will be even more slippery than we think"

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A little cloudburst over one part of the track would make life (and the race) interesting.
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It seems the main worry now is not the breaking up of the track but the expected ultra slippery surface due to the tarmac still 'bleeding oil' not having yet had the time to cure.

As Robert Kubica said, "Although we are prepared for slippery conditions, I think it will be even more slippery than we think"

A little cloudburst over one part of the track would make life (and the race) interesting.
A number of people posted their concerns about the track not having time to cure. A cloud burst will be interesting as will be the first practice session.
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I guess all those highly paid drivers will have to earn their money then!
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I guess all those highly paid drivers will have to earn their money then!
The acres of tarmac run off will save them.
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Now, according to the BBC, the drivers don't like it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9118137.stm
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