[FIA GT] 2009 GT1/GT2 specs

[CS21476895]

Are there any specs for the FIA 2009 GT1/GT2 cars around?

Thanks!
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[alexkiller8]

what does it mean your question? if you mean if there are still cars running with old specs, maybe some old car that still take part to GT open, GT300 or the GT sprint (the support champ of european/italian v8 superstars series)

[CS21476895]

I just want to know what the specs where for the FIA 2009 GT1/GT2 cars. (Like a BoP spec sheet)

Chevrolet Corvette C6.R (2009)
Ferrari 550 GTS (2009)
Maserati MC12 GT1 (2009)
Matech Ford GT1 (2009)
Nissan GT-R GT1 (2009)
Saleen S7R (2009)
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Aston Martin Vantage GT2 (2009)
Ferrari F430 GTC (2009)
Porsche 997 GT3 RSR (2009)

[alexkiller8]

me too was looking for official data, i need to recreate a realistic fia gt 2009 champ for gtr2.
As i far i know the maserati mc12 was 1100kg and had around 600hp (in some site is written 620) with handicaps on the aero, the corvette c6r was 1150kg and 590hp, matech and nissan i don't know how they ran in 2009, the saleen s7r was 1150kg and 600hp, about 550 i don't know because exist too much different version of that car. In GT2 the porsche and ferrari weight was 1200kg with around 500hp (the ferrari one had a lower revlimit and a higher torque bend, the porsche one had a higer revlimit and a lower but more linear torque bend), vantage v8 of hexis i don't know.

These however are indicative values, can also be wrong, but unfortunately in the fia gt site aren't available anymore info about fia gt 2009 (or maybe i don't know how to find them)

[CS21476895]

I searched around more. Here is what I found for the Matech and the Nissan. They may be slightly off though.

Matech Ford GT1:
1230 kg @ 600 hp

Nissan GT-R GT1:
1250 kg @ 600 hp

I think the MC12 may have 560 hp.

[alexkiller8]

i'm can say for sure that 560hp was the power output of the mc12 in first 2 races of 2010 champ because of a too much unfair balance of performance. The other cars really don't know, a certain thing is that in 2009 champ the ford GT matech has always been more competitive than gigawave GTR.

[alexkiller8]

surely the GTR engine in 2009 was really more restricted than the actual one (that is the most powerfull in hp and torque)

[Deleted]

Some bits here... Saleens were running with 34mm air restrictors @ Silverstone - later decreased to 33,1mm plus 10kg added ballast. After Adria the Corvettes were allowed to run with either 31,3mm restrictor, or alternatively 31,6mm+10kg ballast.

[CS21476895]

I am trying to do the same as you alexkiller. The FIA GT1 2009 cars ran with FIA GT1 2010 specs from what I read, but only the C6R and MC12.

So, the MC12 has 600 hp or 560 hp? The C6R has 590 or 650 hp? I remember reading from the Maserati site that they had trouble with the Corvette with the power.

About the Saleen, on the Le Mans History site, it said 1200 kg @ 550 hp. I think it was different between the K plus K, Full Speed, and ARC Bratislava (G2 class).

[alexkiller8]

nope is the reverse, in 2009 fia gt only matech ford GT1 (matech #40 and MVDS#44) and nissan GT-R (gigawave #35) have taken part with 2010 spec GT1 cars, while all the others GT1 and GT2 cars ran with pre-2010 specs.

I didn't read what you said about maserati vs corvette, maybe you are talking about the regulament/legal conflict between vitaphone team and PKA team after the decisive race of zolder that decided the championship results with the DSQ of #4 corvette; i'll be surprised if maserati protested against corvette for power questions (even the stones know that corvette and saleen engines have much more torque than ferrari engine). About LMS 2010 saleen, during last year LMS site said that GT1 cars may choice between 1250kg/600hp set or 1200kg/560hp, but i suppose these are indicatives values, the important values about power output are the restrictors size different for each car.

[CS21476895]

Ok, now GT2 cars. The GT1 cars had a choice of 1200 kg with 600 hp, or 1250 with 650 hp. What were the GT2 choices?

[arakis]

ferrari f430, porsche 997 gt3 rsr and aston martin V8 are the ones that participated in 2009 fia gt2 championship,
GT2 cars were around 460-470 hp with 1245 kg

[alexkiller8]

mmm 1245kg is the minumun weight of actual gte cars, gt2 cars were 1200kg heavy, however i seriously doubt that in 2009 there were GT1 cars with 650hp.... if ever have existed...

[MitchZ06]

F40 GT1's were said to have had around 650+hp and atleast had 700hp at a certain Monza race where they still weren't enough to beat a black McLaren....

[NightStalk3r]

Originally Posted by arakis

GT2 cars were around 460-470 hp with 1245 kg

Porsche was 455hp in 2009.

[Deleted]

GT2 weights were increased by 45kg from 2008, thus making them 1245kg. However Porkies were later allowed to run 30kg lighter, and Vantages 50kg. Other bits:

AstonM Vantage - 29,7mm restrictor at Silverstone
Nissan GTR - 32,4mm restrictor at Silverstone
Maserati - 25kg extra ballast added after Silverstone

[CS21476895]

Ok, great!

So, I have this:

Aston Martin Vantage GT2 (2009 FIA)
1195 kg with ? hp

Ferrari F430 GTC (2009 FIA)
1245 kg with ? hp

Porsche 997 GT3 RSR (2009 FIA) <- Should there be two different performance values for this car?
1215 kg with 455 hp

One more thing with the Saleen S7R:
The #11 FSR was a Twin Turbo? How much difference between that and the other Saleens?

Thanks

[alexkiller8]

i think that "twin turbo" was just a name, basicly is however a saleen S7R, with no differences.

[arakis]

Originally Posted by CS21476895

Ok, great!

So, I have this:

Aston Martin Vantage GT2 (2009 FIA)
1195 kg with ? hp

Ferrari F430 GTC (2009 FIA)
1245 kg with ? hp

Porsche 997 GT3 RSR (2009 FIA) <- Should there be two different performance values for this car?
1215 kg with 455 hp

One more thing with the Saleen S7R:
The #11 FSR was a Twin Turbo? How much difference between that and the other Saleens?

Thanks

I almost forgot, in 2009 ferrari was still runing 1145kg ruels so its 445 hp for them, only at the last 2 races of the FIA gt2 championship did one AF corse run 1245kg, and higher restrictors.

[NightStalk3r]

Originally Posted by alexkiller8

i think that "twin turbo" was just a name, basicly is however a saleen S7R, with no differences.

The FIA GT from 2008(?) used the Homologation model name instead of the actually racing cars name.

[TheNewBob]

nevermind

[MitchZ06]

Can you just imagine the torque a twin turbo S7R would have even if limited to 600hp

[alexkiller8]

around 740-770Nm i think