Conceptual Stages of building a motorcycle track IRL

[bio]

Oh, forgot some specifications...

The track is 1.5 miles long practically to the meter. The track width is 14 meters. The start/finish straight is 185 meters long. The paddock is 110 meters.

There are 31 turns on the track, 14 right turns and 17 left turns. There are four big turn-clusters, one right after the start straight (turns 3-11), one midtrack (turns 13-18) and two at the final third (22-26 and 27-31).

From the dimensions given it was pretty obvious that most of the track would be turns upon turns but I also tried to include straights as well. There are 4 straights, a 64-meter, a 118-meter, a 122-meter and a 105-meter - plus the 185-meter start/finish straight, of course.

I liked mith's idea of an extended long straight so I borrowed his idea and put something like that in my track (521 meters long), alongside with some more alternative sections.

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By the way... Does anyone know why the vast majority of the F1 and cycling - tracks go clockwise? Really only one or two of them don't. Why?

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[Fish_Flake]

Originally Posted by bio

By the way... Does anyone know why the vast majority of the F1 and cycling - tracks go clockwise? Really only one or two of them don't. Why?

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No real reason, to tell the truth. There's nothing that says a road circuit can't be run counter-clockwise, and many do: Imola, Interlagos, Istanbul, Laguna Seca, Mount Panorama, just to name some.

The Gordon Bennett Cup of 1904 held around the Irish town of Athy was probably the first major closed-circuit road race. A full lap of the circuit consisted two loops -- one clockwise to the town of Carlow and one counterclockwise to the town of Kildare -- which eventually met at the city center and shared the main road out of Athy. Meanwhile, the French Grand Prix was first run in 1906 around Le Mans on a 64-mile counterclockwise circuit; the circuit through Dieppe which alternated with Le Mans in the earliest days of the Grand Prix shared its orientation. The Targa Florio was established the same year in Sicily, and that race was always run counterclockwise until its demise in the 1970s. The circuits in and near Brescia which hosted mainland Italy's biggest race from the turn of the century until the early 1920s were all run anti-clockwise. The first premier permanent racing facilities in the world -- Brooklands, Indianapolis, and AVUS -- all were predominantly left-turn circuits.

I imagine, though, that the tradition of road racing being a clockwise affair came with the establishment of the "classic" European venues that came to fruition in the 1920s, beginning with Le Mans' Sarthe circuit in 1921 and continuing with Monza in 1922, Montlhery and Pescara in 1924, Reims and Spa-Francorchamps in 1925, the Nurburgring in 1927, and Monaco in 1929. Those names represent motorsport in a nutshell even today, and all of them ran clockwise. The circuits which still operate today continue to do so. With these tracks being the spiritual homes of road racing, organizers and track developers who came after them just followed their example.

[bio]

So it's mainly tradition.
Thanks for the info.

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Wow, at last I managed to upload the damn image

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[LuiggiSpeed]

Hello C2t,
I see you have been bitten by the same bug.

30 turns in such a small track will leave you gasping for air in about 2 laps,if you allow me to say.
That's more like a karting track, no wait, two or three carting tracks in one!

We have a carting track here that the folks use to get a fix, but the problem with such track is that you never ever get out of second gear,and if you can do 10 laps, youre in really good shape.It's a nice supermoto,mini-bike,scooter or GP replica track however, but anything larger than a 450 Super Moto is a waste of time,since there's hardly a breather anywhere.


This is the track I'm talking about and you can see I proposed an aditional trace,just so we can stretch our legs,at least in a 600cc bike.The real track is the part to the right,its straight is about 200 mts,and it's built in around 30 acres.

I,as a motorcycle racer would cut off the turns in half(at least) and double the lenght of the straights(at least) to make for a more fun course,with medium sweepers,so that you feel relatively safe.

Such a small track would not be nesesarly safer,since most of the riders will be prone to dehydrating and falling victim of nausea,thus causing massive accidents!

I'm not kidding or bashing in anyway My Brother!

One thing you can do,is get the place on Google earth and let me take a look at the real terrain,so that we can check out the contour of the terrain and see what see can come up, based around the terrain itself.

Hope to hear from you!

Luiggi

[CanAm-1]

Building your own track can be what ever you want, remember the jump rule 1 foot up and 3 foot out on the take off ramp.its good to have half fast section half tec section ,the idea being you can rest and get your breath back before you get back into the tec bit otherwise you keep going and going and its not much fun

[LuiggiSpeed]

So wazzup with this?


With all due respect,this track is an example of "how not to"

It's too tortuous and it has many mistakes, 30 turns is way too much and I'm afraid my men CTT will go through all the hardships of building such track only to do 3 or 4 laps before quitting!

12-15 turns is more than enough,and a more simple design will keep you interested and safe.