Are the Eastern Creek upgrades still going ahead? - Page 2

rdmdog · 19 Jul 2011, 13:39 (Ref:2928566)

Lets just hope we don't end up with the situation that was too regular at Oran Park (RIP) where two race meetings were held at the same time (Karts and Cars). Everyone looses in that case.

Shane001 · 19 Jul 2011, 14:00 (Ref:2928579)

Yeah I wasn't a big fan of the South Circuit.

The larger part of the split circuit looks like it would be a good drive though, let's hope they get the turn 4 to turn 9 link right, I'm thinking dogleg

jd yort · 22 Oct 2011, 08:27 (Ref:2975071)

Did anyone go out to E Creek today? From Natsoft I am assuming this is the first meeting utilising the "North" Circuit.

Axeman55 · 22 Oct 2011, 18:29 (Ref:2975206)

Yes - the final round of the NSW State Motor Race Championship is the inaugural event on the new North Circuit.

Saturday worked well, especially once drivers understood that there were penalties for all wheels over the track delineator on driver's right going through the new crossover section between Turns 4 and 9.

The change has meant that entry speeds are higher going into Turn 10; which has meant drivers are learning new braking points on approach. Also, there did seem to be a few more "offs" at Turn 11 as a result of higher speeds through Turn 10.

All up; a good start for the new circuit.

Look forward to additional feedback after Sunday's runs.

Well done ARDC - and the sooner we get all the changes finished then the sooner we can see some "clubbie" action on the new South Circuit.

Keep on revving!

Axeman55 · 23 Oct 2011, 10:06 (Ref:2975451)

A quick clarification on my earlier post. This weekend was the final round of the season for the NSW State Motor Race Chanpionship at Eastern Creek; the final round of the Championship itself will be held at Wakefield Park.

Sunday went well on the new circuit and there was plenty of positive feedback from the drivers in various categories. As an indication of the speed changes approaching Turn 10 the Production Tourers used to arrive via the hairpin at Turn 9 at approx 160, whilst using the correct lines through the new crossover between Turns 4 and 9 gives an arrival speed at Turn 10 of approx 180 - but if people use the full width in the crossover, as they did in Friday's private practice, then they arrive at Turn 10 at approx 200.

Overall, very positive - and it will be interesting to see how everybody adjusts to the new North Circuit over the next few months.

marty71 · 27 Oct 2011, 06:33 (Ref:2977505)

www.speedcafe.com/2011/10/27/video-new-eastern-creek-north-circuit/

Wow what a lap. Is it Paul Morris driving.

Simon S · 27 Oct 2011, 13:20 (Ref:2977703)

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Originally Posted by marty71

www.speedcafe.com/2011/10/27/video-new-eastern-creek-north-circuit/

Wow what a lap. Is it Paul Morris driving.

reminds me of BTCC, a full-contact sport....

Axeman444 · 27 Oct 2011, 22:12 (Ref:2977946)

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Originally Posted by Axeman55

A quick clarification...

do i know you??

Axeman55 · 28 Oct 2011, 05:18 (Ref:2978006)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

do i know you??

Depends if you have raced in the same Category, or, if you have been up to the CofC office for a "conversation"!

I Rosputnik · 28 Oct 2011, 08:31 (Ref:2978060)

Looks good, any more updates planned then?

Axeman55 · 30 Oct 2011, 05:55 (Ref:2978783)

Work is still progressing on the upgrades.

The HSRCA race meeting at the end of November will be the last event on the original full circuit as in December there will be work starting around the Corporate Hill area to bring the new South Circuit to completion and finalise the new full circuit.

Hope the weather holds up so that the work can be completed without disruption. Well done to Steve Hogan, Circuit Operations Manager, and his team for coordinating work with the contractors - especially as much was done overnight to minimise disruption to daytime activities.

More news as the works progress.

woodduck97 · 1 Nov 2011, 03:34 (Ref:2979933)

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Originally Posted by marty71

www.speedcafe.com/2011/10/27/video-new-eastern-creek-north-circuit/

Wow what a lap. Is it Paul Morris driving.

yes, that footage was nothing short of comical. What a goat... footage like that should make CAMS review licencing standards.

But the track looks great, that fast new flip flop section looks great fun...

Alan52 · 2 Nov 2011, 02:16 (Ref:2980433)

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Originally Posted by Axeman55

The HSRCA race meeting at the end of November will be the last event on the original full circuit

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This is not correct.The original circuit will still be used for many meetings.There will be some occassions when the 2 circuits will be used concurrently and a few times when the 4.5k combined circuit will be used.

I Rosputnik · 31 Dec 2011, 11:03 (Ref:3005811)

According to this things will be ready by March.

Axeman444 · 20 Mar 2012, 22:19 (Ref:3045668)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

Question for the people that actually have driven EC in anger, what is your opinion on the kink right before the left hander on the southern side of Corporate Hill (Turn 6 or 7?). The 3 flowing corners before (from being a spectator) can lead to cars wanting to pass one another at this complex, but the kink seems to cancel that opportunity out. I would have thought if it is a straight left hander without the kink, it could be another "under braking" passing opportunity?

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Originally Posted by Shane001

Nah leave that as is I reckon, I quite like that section, lots of fun going in their hard with the right side of the car launching off the ripple strip on the right then hard on the brakes to make the apex

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Originally Posted by Jeff 8

I am so used to going the way it is now I think it would be weird, also I think they would have to increase the run off in that turn and the next because of the increased speed.

Jeff

http://www.speedcafe.com/2012/03/06/...eastern-creek/

"As part of the $9 million worth of upgrades currently being undertaken at the venue, the right-hand kink at the back of Corporate Hill, known as Turn 6, has been removed.
The change has been made in order to allow overtaking at the following left-hand Turn 7, and represents the first alteration to the 3.9km Grand Prix circuit since it was built in 1990."

Apologies if I have ruined your fun Shane and Jeff

Tourer · 21 Mar 2012, 02:23 (Ref:3045755)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

http://www.speedcafe.com/2012/03/06/...eastern-creek/

"As part of the $9 million worth of upgrades currently being undertaken at the venue, the right-hand kink at the back of Corporate Hill, known as Turn 6, has been removed.
The change has been made in order to allow overtaking at the following left-hand Turn 7, and represents the first alteration to the 3.9km Grand Prix circuit since it was built in 1990."

Apologies if I have ruined your fun Shane and Jeff

Your view on the kink is shared by many Axeman - removing it SHOULD provide a better opportunity to overtake into the left hander. Accept that the change may change the nature of the corner but removal of the kink is something that has been asked for often by pro drivers, the V8 people and similar.

Purist · 21 Mar 2012, 04:15 (Ref:3045765)

Are these upgrades being done along the lines of the revised (non-F1) Apex Circuit Design plans?

Thankfully, it looks like the existing layout should see rather minimal revision; if the layout I've seen is right, then the new loop just sticks off the side of the existing course.

DAVID PATERSON · 22 Mar 2012, 02:53 (Ref:3046332)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

http://www.speedcafe.com/2012/03/06/...eastern-creek/

"As part of the $9 million worth of upgrades currently being undertaken at the venue, the right-hand kink at the back of Corporate Hill, known as Turn 6, has been removed.
The change has been made in order to allow overtaking at the following left-hand Turn 7, and represents the first alteration to the 3.9km Grand Prix circuit since it was built in 1990."

i think this is an example of my theory that great driver's circuits don't generally provide good racing, but circuits which aren't very exciting for the driver, can provide great racing for the spectator.

Axeman444 · 22 Mar 2012, 03:45 (Ref:3046339)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

i think this is an example of my theory that great driver's circuits don't generally provide good racing, but circuits which aren't very exciting for the driver, can provide great racing for the spectator.

Nordschleife case in point David

Alan52 · 22 Mar 2012, 23:14 (Ref:3046862)

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Originally Posted by DAVID PATERSON

i think this is an example of my theory that great driver's circuits don't generally provide good racing, but circuits which aren't very exciting for the driver, can provide great racing for the spectator.

Spa and Bathurst kind of disprove this theory.

Shane001 · 23 Mar 2012, 22:52 (Ref:3047309)

I think a key to a great race track is undulation;

What did we all love about Oran Park: the dogleg & up and over the bridge.
What do we love about Bathurst: Up and over the hill.
Nordschleife, Spa, etc all have plenty of undulation.

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