Franchises / Licences for Sale / Lease!

Archer · 29 Nov 2003, 03:05 (Ref:797839)

FPR confirmed the running of only two cars on 04. Now if LP leases RNR for his third car, and Speedy goes to the Konica series (as rumoured) then that would meen that licences: 13 IMS, 24 Romano/PMM, 43 L2 PWR, and 99 TMR are all up for sale or lease!

Are there any bidders?!

Docker · 29 Nov 2003, 03:49 (Ref:797853)

This reeks of Demand and Supply

The more Supply (liscences) the demand will be less forcing prices down.

Maybe SBR will regret giving wintebottom away.
Youlden may have a supercheap drive next year.

Ohhh the possibilties

racer69 · 29 Nov 2003, 07:42 (Ref:798005)

If they are put up for sale and no-one buys, are the owners still required to field cars?

TSR · 29 Nov 2003, 07:50 (Ref:798007)

But how many more will HRT buy,maybe they will run 8car team next under 4 different names

Gaz170 · 29 Nov 2003, 07:59 (Ref:798008)

Quote:

Originally posted by racer69
If they are put up for sale and no-one buys, are the owners still required to field cars?

Maybe AVESCO will buy them back at a fire-sale price to get the field back to 32 cars.

rusky26 · 29 Nov 2003, 13:18 (Ref:798215)

what happenned to John Faulkner's francise. has it been sold?. last thing I remember, the KMart (Kelly) team was going to buy it but got the 00 instead.

HRT #1 · 29 Nov 2003, 15:03 (Ref:798252)

Quote:

Originally posted by TSR
But how many more will HRT buy,maybe they will run 8car team next under 4 different names

TEGA capped the limit on the amount of cars that any team could run which is 4 cars maximum per team which is still in effect, so the 8 car under 4 different names theory just won't happen.

racer69 · 29 Nov 2003, 15:34 (Ref:798263)

The Holden 'consortium' effectively ran 6 cars this year, so there are ways around it.

**GTRMagic** · 29 Nov 2003, 20:08 (Ref:798399)

Why do you believe that FPR are only running 2 cars next season? I have seen the press release too but what is said in the press and what actually happens are likely to be 2 different things.

The whole argument about the switch back to 2 cars was because of the 3-cars-to-a-pit-boom... which is alleviated when the satellite team housing another team's franchises manages to get round that, and provide an economy of scale to the business.

We shall see

stmookeyj033 · 29 Nov 2003, 20:36 (Ref:798415)

I heard that Paul Morris bought the Romano L2. Still think the Toll L2 may be shaky as well.

**GTRMagic** · 29 Nov 2003, 20:45 (Ref:798425)

PMM cant/dont want to run a second car till the main one is sorted out properly. And why would PMM buy a franchise when their legal action coming soon will give them a slot for free

The test day with Tratt and FPR was no accident (haha) and pointed to the beginnings of a satellite just waiting to be launched into orbit

vortexo · 30 Nov 2003, 00:59 (Ref:798564)

Quote:

Originally posted by GTRMagic
PMM cant/dont want to run a second car till the main one is sorted out properly. And why would PMM buy a franchise when their legal action coming soon will give them a slot for free

The test day with Tratt and FPR was no accident (haha) and pointed to the beginnings of a satellite just waiting to be launched into orbit

What like HRT did ??????????????

**GTRMagic** · 30 Nov 2003, 09:21 (Ref:798972)

Basically running 4 cars, but in 2 distinct and separate groups... the Ford Credit Lowndes/Seton cars and the Toll/FPV Tratt/TBA arrangement.

ford boy · 30 Nov 2003, 09:29 (Ref:798978)

Hope this is true, would be good to see Noske run in a well budjeted team with international input, i'm sure we would see his talent come through.

pete55 · 30 Nov 2003, 09:46 (Ref:798996)

So that is how the Shell money is going to FPR. Paul Little would probably have more money than FPR so i don't think a team like that would be short of funding. It would need a good development driver to run alongside Tratt though.

TheGspot · 30 Nov 2003, 09:49 (Ref:798999)

Pete, Noske and Tratt as the 3rd and 4th cars, wilson to 888 and bright to DJR along side Brabham junior can find a ride with bernard. Fits I think especially with the bright parting shots at holden about no VY for the team

**GTRMagic** · 30 Nov 2003, 09:59 (Ref:799014)

Well if the EC rumour mill is right, Mark Noske has his own deal nailed with WPS for a 2 car team in 2004

TheGspot · 30 Nov 2003, 10:02 (Ref:799018)

FORgive my ignorance WPS ?

Grimace · 30 Nov 2003, 10:06 (Ref:799024)

Quote:

Originally posted by Docker
This reeks of Demand and Supply

The more Supply (liscences) the demand will be less forcing prices down.

Maybe SBR will regret giving wintebottom away.
Youlden may have a supercheap drive next year.

Ohhh the possibilties

SBR are engine suppliers to Larkham Motorsport - im sure Winterbottoms drive there prompted the deal. It is for 2 years i think i heard, maybe a form of an apprenticship in the big league for Winterbottom by then Ingall may be out of his contract and Winterbottom may well return to the strong SBR team
Im sure there is some deal between Larkhan and Stones to keep Winterbottom till Ingall goes.
Cant see Ross Stone signing Mark Winterbottom away for keeps!

**GTRMagic** · 30 Nov 2003, 10:08 (Ref:799030)

Quote:

Originally posted by TheGspot
FORgive my ignorance WPS ?

Wright Patton Shakespeare... a financial planning company that has something to do with Craig Gore, son of Santuary Cove developer Mike Gore.

They apparently have the wherewithall, the desire and the plan to put a 2 car main series show together in 2004....

TheGspot · 30 Nov 2003, 10:10 (Ref:799033)

GTR what about the Stone Brothers 4 car thing that was rumoured to be going on, any more word

**GTRMagic** · 30 Nov 2003, 10:14 (Ref:799039)

The need to go to 4 cars for SBR evaporated when Mark Winterbottom was signed to Larkham Motor Sport.

SBR arent running a Konica program next season, the current AU championship winner is in negotiation for sale, and there are enough AU bits around to complete the spare shell they have in the workshop for sale.

ford boy · 30 Nov 2003, 10:19 (Ref:799044)

Did'nt WPS recently purchase the 00 motorsport team, if they did would'nt that come with a L2 franchise as well, so Noske would join up with them and would be a 2 car team.
2 L2 franchises.

**GTRMagic** · 30 Nov 2003, 10:23 (Ref:799047)

Mark Noske's #23 car currently uses the LRT L1 franchise to operate under, or half of it anyway.

I believe the timeframe for the purchase options 00 had over two particular L2 franchises has lapsed, meaning that a purchaser would need to arrange their own franchises.

In the end it remains unclear whether WPS has bought 2 00 cars, or the whole 00 factory....

The other interesting aside to that may be that Charlie O'Brien comes back to full time racing to steer the 2nd car...

Evomike · 30 Nov 2003, 22:31 (Ref:799613)

Besnard has been dropped by FPR they said the 3 car thing didn't work.

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