[iV8SC12R10&11] Phillip Island 300, 18-20 May

[chavez]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Surely, Monsieur Premat must be wondering whether his contract will go the distance by now.

Who was the worst performing fulltime GRM pilot previously?

Some bloke called Whincup I believe............

[sizzle]

Originally Posted by bluesport

I haven't got it recorded, but they called it on the telecast and then replayed it........Frosty was behind them I think.

Nah mate Frosty backed them all up on the way in, which lead to most of the drama.

[Umai Naa]

Andrew Jones, 28th 2005. Admittedly Mr Rogers punted him towards the back end of the season.

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by sizzle

Nah mate Frosty backed them all up on the way in, which lead to most of the drama.

I see, I thought he was referring to the cars that hit each other.

[GTRMagic]

888 Protests FPR - Officially

[osrg]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

888 Protests FPR - Officially

Sooks.

[Scrut]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

888 Protests FPR - Officially

Protest Dismissed.

[NinnyMan]

Originally Posted by sizzle

Nah mate Frosty backed them all up on the way in, which lead to most of the drama.

Frosty backing them up didn't have any impact on the clash between Fab and Reindler.
Cars stacking in pit lane caused that. Watching the highlights on Bigpond Frosty actually
came out behind them just before they clashed. Slade was stacked waiting for Reynolds
and as a result slowed one of the JD cars and Murph who then slowed Reindler who was
waiting to pit. With no room to move Fab's tried to 2 wheel it past.

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/multim...4/default.aspx

[johnh875]

Originally Posted by dsg

What real harm was there to driver safety leaving the car there. At worst a car goes off on the slowest corner on the track and gets a dinged up front bumper.

Unless there is a brake failure, I have seen a car go into the tyre wall at that corner, if you know how far back it is.

Agree with pit lane comments, pretty poor display. Good on-track action at least!

[formerf1champ]

I'm watching the replay on 7 right now. I'm comparing the 7 coverage now to when 7 had it before '97, taking into account that 7/VESA have an out by saying it's live on 7mate. This is in Victoria by the way. Both coverages were a late-night delayed telecast, because of the footy.

IIRC, back then, 7 would show the dash, a support race (typically fford), heat 1 (full), another support race (not fford), heat 2 (full), presentation and then, maybe, a colour piece at the end. This was a 2 hour program.

Now, its just one edited heat, no support races and a program scheduled to be less than 1 hour long! Which do you think is the better option?

Back then, 7 had the rights to the ATCC for free, the package comes with Bathurst. Nowadays, how much do they pay for the rights?

So, to those of us who like to stick it to Cochrane and the whole V8SC community for the way they go about their business. Should we be thankful for the "increased" publicity that they've bought to Australian motorsport (whatever it is) and Australian entertainment industries, or should we be thankful that digital technology has developed so that the media industry allows us to have more than 5 free-to-air, 3 commercial, tv channels, that give VESA an out?

[dsg]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

b) The sc gets put out for lesser dangers.

It does, but shouldn't.

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

c) If you're not going to put it out for that type of danger at that time, for similar dangers, don't put it out at other anytime!

This was the point I was making, so I agree.

[formerf1champ]

Originally Posted by dsg

It does, but shouldn't.



This was the point I was making, so I agree.

Oh ok, I get you now.

[redesp]

Surely it's time to close pit lane when the safety car comes out??

[bluesport]

Originally Posted by redesp

Surely it's time to close pit lane when the safety car comes out??

The easy answer isn't it.........but what about the cars that are almost out of fuel, do you allow them to come in for a splash?

[Umai Naa]

Knock double-stacking on the head. Ban two cars from the one garage being in the pitlane at the same time. Pretty easy to police, really. Just monitor when the pitlane speed-limiter has been activated/deactivated. If two cars from the one garage are using the limiter at the same time, ping them.

Might promote more racing on the actual track itself. In yesterday's race, I think there were only one or two cars still out on the track racing, while the rest of the field were tripping over themselves in the pits, during that first round of stops. Great spectacle if you're viewing from pit straight, or the corporate facilities upstairs...

[rich07]

Originally Posted by chavez

Some bloke called Whincup I believe............

So going by his experiences, if Premat gets dropped from GRM later in the year and ends up at another team, he'll be series champion in a few years time?

Premat needs time to learn the car, its soooo much different from anything else he's raced.

Question is-does Garry have enough patience?........hmmmm..

[formerf1champ]

I saw the edited fford races at PI earlier this afternoon. I cannot believe for an Aus National fford series, that there was barely a dozen starters! If that's the case we, as an Australian motorsport community, have completly lost the plot!

[Umai Naa]

There was some speil on Speedcafe about it the other day.

Mick Ritter from Sonic reckons it's a combination of peole lacking the cash and testicles required to make the leap from state level to national level at the moment.

I wonder how many current-spec cars are buzzing around in state level competition? Perhaps the money involved in getting on the V8SC roadshow is a tad too prohibitive.

[Woolley]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

I saw the edited fford races at PI earlier this afternoon. I cannot believe for an Aus National fford series, that there was barely a dozen starters! If that's the case we, as an Australian motorsport community, have completly lost the plot!

It's no better up here at the moment. I think it's more a case of FFord has lost the plot.

[leothedrummer]

Originally Posted by redesp

Surely it's time to close pit lane when the safety car comes out??

That wouldn't solve the problem of double stacking, that'd only make it worse!

[mountainstar]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

I saw the edited fford races at PI earlier this afternoon. I cannot believe for an Aus National fford series, that there was barely a dozen starters! If that's the case we, as an Australian motorsport community, have completly lost the plot!

I've heard teams want $200,000 for a season. For what is supposed to be "entry level" motorsport, that is why you have 12 entries.

[formerf1champ]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Mick Ritter from Sonic reckons it's a combination of peole lacking the cash and testicles required to make the leap from state level to national level at the moment.

Ironically, Mick Ritter and Sonic's participation were the start of the downhill slide of ffords in Australia.

Originally Posted by Woolley

It's no better up here at the moment. I think it's more a case of FFord has lost the plot.

It seems that national fford competitions have to die a natural death, then

Originally Posted by mountainstar

I've heard teams want $200,000 for a season.

I'm going to ask out Cindy Crawford.

Originally Posted by mountainstar

For what is supposed to be "entry level" motorsport, that is why you have 12 entries.

Taking into account I've never driven one. But, seeing them live at state rounds and noticing their lap times are 4 seconds off a V8Supercars at Phillip Island, of all places. I cannot see what is so "entry level" about them.

[peckstar]

Im sure all this is discussed in some open wheel catagory somewhere

[Umai Naa]

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

Ironically, Mick Ritter and Sonic's participation were the start of the downhill slide of ffords in Australia.

Monopoly, or have they inadvertedly set the benchmarks, be it performance, costs, or otherwise?

[Axeman444]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Im sure all this is discussed in some open wheel catagory somewhere

let us know when you find it then

Originally Posted by formerf1champ

Taking into account I've never driven one. But, seeing them live at state rounds and noticing their lap times are 4 seconds off a V8Supercars at Phillip Island, of all places. I cannot see what is so "entry level" about them.

in Australia traditionally FF is considered the next step after Karts, after which you make your decision, as long as you have the $$ to take the next step, of going down the tin top path, or the open wheeler path, with a possible jaunt to Europe. So it is in theory the entry level to bigger games (notwithstanding superkarts etc that do full tracks), and eventually main game, whatever that may be