Hyundai V8

Racenut · 20 Sep 2011, 22:07 (Ref:2958794)

I heard a whisper on the grapevine that someone in Queensland is working on building a Hyundai V8. Could it be for COTF?

Anyone know anything?

PVDA · 20 Sep 2011, 22:26 (Ref:2958806)

It's not some weird Drag Racing car is it??

bludvl_x19 · 20 Sep 2011, 22:37 (Ref:2958813)

Or the Excel-based Sports Sedan???

That said, I came across this http://carjake.com/kia-gt-concept-is...ture-rwd-sedan which points to Hyundai potentially having a RWD car in their line up in the near future.

peckstar · 20 Sep 2011, 22:46 (Ref:2958815)

i assume you mean a hyundai v8 motor, and anot a car?

Axeman444 · 20 Sep 2011, 23:21 (Ref:2958839)

all depends on whether the whisperer was Tony Cochrane or someone from News Limited...

Tony C · 21 Sep 2011, 01:49 (Ref:2958875)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

Or the Excel-based Sports Sedan???

That said, I came across this http://carjake.com/kia-gt-concept-is...ture-rwd-sedan which points to Hyundai potentially having a RWD car in their line up in the near future.

The Genesis is already rear wheel drive.... and V8..... mmmm

Sounds like a V8 supercar....
Looks like a V8 supercar...
.... but does that make it a V8 supercar?

Maybe Tony Cochran should have a talk to Hyundai... or maybe he has?

dsg · 21 Sep 2011, 01:52 (Ref:2958876)

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Originally Posted by Tony C

.... but does that make it a V8 supercar?

Just as much as anything else out there.

Rachel Richards · 21 Sep 2011, 02:26 (Ref:2958878)

Perhaps it is Paul Pickett, last heard of in the NT, and we all know it is just a short hop, skip & parcel delivery from Qld ?

Don't dismiss it, the guy was a sucessful Hyuandai Racer, and Team owner of days gone by.

Come back Paul all is forgiven, perhaps a sponsorship deal to rival Pepsi might be in the offering.

Things go better with Coke (except Richard Buttrose)

mtpanorama · 21 Sep 2011, 02:33 (Ref:2958880)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachel Richards

Perhaps it is Paul Pickett, last heard of in the NT, and we all know it is just a short hop, skip & parcel delivery from Qld ?

Don't dismiss it, the guy was a sucessful Hyuandai Racer, and Team owner of days gone by.

Sucessful,

that's like saying Malcom Rea can prepare a car for a race meeting on time

bluesport · 21 Sep 2011, 02:54 (Ref:2958885)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony C

The Genesis is already rear wheel drive.... and V8..... mmmm

Sounds like a V8 supercar....
Looks like a V8 supercar...
.... but does that make it a V8 supercar?

Maybe Tony Cochran should have a talk to Hyundai... or maybe he has?

Aren't overhead quad cam engines banned?

twinwebbers · 21 Sep 2011, 03:24 (Ref:2958891)

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Originally Posted by bluesport

Aren't overhead quad cam engines banned?

I believe engines under COTF are up for grabs as long as they have the correct number of cylinders and configuration that the series name suggests.

Rachel Richards · 21 Sep 2011, 03:30 (Ref:2958892)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtpanorama

Sucessful,

that's like saying Malcom Rea can prepare a car for a race meeting on time

mtpanorama, IIRC: Paul was THE most sucessful Hyundai racer in 2.0 lt Touring Cars......
That must make him sucessful

MarioNZ · 21 Sep 2011, 05:39 (Ref:2958906)

Here's a conspiracy theory for you - the Kiwi V8 Supertourers chassis' are being built in Q'Land........and their Facebook page says that they are 'working hard on a 3rd manufacturer' ??????

**GTRMagic** · 21 Sep 2011, 06:48 (Ref:2958917)

Quote:

Originally Posted by twinwebbers

I believe engines under COTF are up for grabs as long as they have the correct number of cylinders and configuration that the series name suggests.

There has been much discussion behind closed doors of an equivalency formula where a manufacturer doesnt have a 5 litre 2 valve ohv engine in their portfolio.

Here's hoping it never comes to that, that there isnt a 4L DOHC engine competing with the existing models... because one side or other will be better, and the other will bleat and moan for an adjustment...

bluesport · 21 Sep 2011, 07:53 (Ref:2958942)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

There has been much discussion behind closed doors of an equivalency formula where a manufacturer doesnt have a 5 litre 2 valve ohv engine in their portfolio.

Here's hoping it never comes to that, that there isnt a 4L DOHC engine competing with the existing models... because one side or other will be better, and the other will bleat and moan for an adjustment...

GTR, it would possibly be more likely that one would prevail on certain types of tracks and the other on different tracks.

**GTRMagic** · 21 Sep 2011, 08:20 (Ref:2958955)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluesport

GTR, it would possibly be more likely that one would prevail on certain types of tracks and the other on different tracks.

But then you wander into the realms of rev adjustments, of air restrictors and the like, possibly even between rounds... and end up in a total bunfight...

Kinda like the old AusGT...

rik · 21 Sep 2011, 11:26 (Ref:2959020)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

But then you wander into the realms of rev adjustments, of air restrictors and the like, possibly even between rounds... and end up in a total bunfight...

Or perhaps Ford and Holden switch to DOHC engines too? What do they have in the corporate stable?

formerf1champ · 21 Sep 2011, 13:52 (Ref:2959084)

Even if it's a V8Supercar, all the talk about a third, multiple manufacturer/s being "interested" in V8Supercars has gone on for so long without coming to realisation that if a third "manufacturer" does join, it'd be an anti-climax.

R4z3rw33n · 21 Sep 2011, 14:54 (Ref:2959107)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony C

The Genesis is already rear wheel drive.... and V8..... mmmm

Sounds like a V8 supercar....
Looks like a V8 supercar...
.... but does that make it a V8 supercar?

Maybe Tony Cochran should have a talk to Hyundai... or maybe he has?

This (based on the Genesis) was developed a few years ago:

As far as I'm aware, the chassis doesn't conform to any particular technical specifications/regulations - I think it was primarily used for drifting (If someone knows better, feel free to correct). I know very little regarding CoTF regulations but, I'm guessing this wouldn't be a terrible platform from which to create an eligible package (exempting the fact this model is a coupe).

If nothing else, it serves to prove that Hyundai could have a stronger sporting image. Providing they were willing.

Edit: The commercial (circa 2009 - filmed at Road Atlanta) even suggests there were sporting aspirations in mind:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGjQ__10Vzs

Racenut · 21 Sep 2011, 20:17 (Ref:2959239)

The story I heard was that it was car and engine, both from Hyundai for circuit racing (not sport sedan). Will try and find more. I think it would be good for the sport if Hyundai got into V8SC but would they sell more cars as a result?

As for the debate of 2 or 4 valve I dont believe it is an issue because at 7500 rpm limit there is no advantage to 4 valve in V8SC.

Casper · 21 Sep 2011, 22:38 (Ref:2959306)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

There has been much discussion behind closed doors of an equivalency formula where a manufacturer doesnt have a 5 litre 2 valve ohv engine in their portfolio.

Here's hoping it never comes to that, that there isnt a 4L DOHC engine competing with the existing models... because one side or other will be better, and the other will bleat and moan for an adjustment...

So tell 'em they all have to use Hyundai V8's, problem sorted. Gee that was easy wasn't it.

Axeman444 · 21 Sep 2011, 22:56 (Ref:2959312)

can you get a Hyundai taxi when you call 131 888??

bluesport · 21 Sep 2011, 23:56 (Ref:2959327)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racenut

As for the debate of 2 or 4 valve I dont believe it is an issue because at 7500 rpm limit there is no advantage to 4 valve in V8SC.

I would think that a 4 valve engine would reach the 7500 limit quicker than a 2 valve engine.

dsg · 22 Sep 2011, 01:08 (Ref:2959356)

Why not just use one of the current V8s and put on different rocker covers that read "HYUNDAI" instead of the "FORD" or "HOLDEN" covers they have now.

Racenut · 22 Sep 2011, 01:26 (Ref:2959360)

Why not put Ford rocker covers on a chev? Because its not.

If there was only one engine to use (spec engine) then that would be fine but there are certain bragging rights about having your brand on your engine. Thats why Toyota spent a fortune building a pushrod engine for NASCAR rather than badge engineering.

If I was the boss at Hyundai, or Nissan or whoever I would not want to race my car if I could not have the option to run my engine.

As I understand it the future rules will allow all types of petrol V8 engines.

If Each engine was the same capacity, with the same air restrictor, and same weights for internal compnents they will all make similar power (and at the same rate). Recipricating mass affects the engines ability to get to the liliter faster, not 4 valves. 4 valves help over about 8500rpm.

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