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Old 15 Feb 2006, 14:23 (Ref:1523432)   #1
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Super Aguri sign all Japanese driver line up.

As widely predicted SA have gone for 2 Japanese drivers:

http://www.planet-f1.com/news/story_22105.shtml
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 16:05 (Ref:1523476)   #2
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I think they are taking a big chance. Sato is not a proven entity. In fact if he is proven at all its to be inconsistent. I wish them the best but I know for sure it will be a struggle for both drivers and for the team. I only hope they are able to run with the back pack for the first few races till they introduce their new chassis. If they are only in the way then it will be almost pointless to race.

The new chassis on the other hand should be good enough to race with. I still would not expect much but it should be better. Sato has been given so many chances in F1; I hope he does well this time around. He will be the team leader and the racer with the experience. I understand he is very technical but if he cant produce, how valuable will he really be as a driver?
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 16:16 (Ref:1523488)   #3
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I think they are taking a bigger chance on Ide, rather than Sato, as he is relatively unknown in European F1 terms. I suppose in a way it doesn't matter as much if the drivers are not of a great standard this season, as it is very much a learning year - Aguri Suzuki has admitted as much. I wonder what happens to the 'all Japanese' tag line when the team sign a non-Japanese driver, which will surely happen at some point in the future? (the fact that the team is based in Britain is of course also seemingly overlooked!)
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 17:22 (Ref:1523546)   #4
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Knock me down with a feather.

Sato is no-brainer. Sato = money + F1 experience (with a top team, and Honda).

Ide I am aware of, but really don't know much about him. I'd be willing to bet he is popular in Japan. This is as good a reason as any for the team to take him this year.
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 20:46 (Ref:1523736)   #5
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Knock me down with a feather.

Sato is no-brainer. Sato = money + F1 experience (with a top team, and Honda).

Ide I am aware of, but really don't know much about him. I'd be willing to bet he is popular in Japan. This is as good a reason as any for the team to take him this year.

well, Sato is the most succesfull japanese F1-driver ever, so I suspect that has something to do with his place in an all-japanese driver lineup
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 17:27 (Ref:1523547)   #6
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I tend to know something about most up-and-coming drivers, but I have to admit that Ide means nothing to me at all. What CV does he have to earn a Super Licence?
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 17:40 (Ref:1523557)   #7
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Who here's seen Ide / rates Ide / has something positive to say about him? All I know about him is a little from Formula Nippon, tis all
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 17:53 (Ref:1523564)   #8
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Formula Nippon Official Site

Ide's Website

On the Nippon site you will need to click on the driver option on the left, as the link doesn't allow any more specialisation than to the main page.

Ide's site appears to only provide a simple run down of what he competed in each year, and that is all.

The Nippon site, once in Ide's profile, provides his rounds' results for 2005, but says nothing about table positions, whereas Ide's site says he finished 2nd in the 2005 standings.

Anyway, on the face of it, seems like he is decent enough to be the 2nd driver in a not entirely competitive team.
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 17:53 (Ref:1523566)   #9
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He's finished top 3 in Nippon in the alst 2 seasons, which may be enough for a Superlicence in itself - otherwise, is there time for him to do the required testing to accumulate toruble-free miles?
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 17:57 (Ref:1523569)   #10
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If need be Honda will run him to crack up some kms.
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 19:08 (Ref:1523641)   #11
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Super Aguri clearly aren't going to achieve much this season then. But at least it keeps some Japanese interest in f1 in terms of an actual team and drivers. Even if it is Sato and an untried driver!
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 19:23 (Ref:1523657)   #12
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Thanks for that - much appreciated.
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I thought my "F1 experience (with a top team, and Honda)" comment would leave it clear I was acknowledging that aspect.

Indeed, the fact he can bring the team money (and I was thinking in terms of merchandise, and team sponsors) is a result of this (comparative) success.
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 21:23 (Ref:1523788)   #14
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how is sato the most succesfull japanese driver ever ???

not questioning (ok I am) but just confused as to how or where that statement came from ?
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 22:31 (Ref:1523849)   #15
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how is sato the most succesfull japanese driver ever ???

not questioning (ok I am) but just confused as to how or where that statement came from ?
well, he is the only Japanese driver to ever score points in F1
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Old 15 Feb 2006, 23:28 (Ref:1523904)   #16
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well, he is the only Japanese driver to ever score points in F1
Er... Katayama? Suzuki? Nakajima? Nakano?
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how is sato the most succesfull japanese driver ever ???

not questioning (ok I am) but just confused as to how or where that statement came from ?
I guess he is. Before him, Ukio Katayama was the most successful with 5 points... IIRC
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I guess he is. Before him, Ukio Katayama was the most successful with 5 points... IIRC
Close but Mr Suzuki himself has scored 8 championship points.

anyway we are splitting hairs i think as none of them have lived up to expectations , hopefully the whole team does well
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Close but Mr Suzuki himself has scored 8 championship points.

anyway we are splitting hairs i think as none of them have lived up to expectations , hopefully the whole team does well

In the interest of more hair splitting Satoru Nakajima scored 16 points in his F1 career (and got fastest lap in the 1989 Australian GP)
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In the interest of more hair splitting Satoru Nakajima scored 16 points in his F1 career (and got fastest lap in the 1989 Australian GP)
I think its Sato's podium and points combined in F1 that has made him the most successful in F1.

If he gets into the points again with SAF1 he may be crowned king!
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how is sato the most succesfull japanese driver ever ???

not questioning (ok I am) but just confused as to how or where that statement came from ?
He is on a points basis and the only Japenese guy to get a poduim IIRC in the US gp 2003 or 2004.

F1 racing had an article bout it a while ago.
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Who is their 3rd driver going to be? I noticed Ralph Firman bigging them up and he did drive for SA in JGT last year - maybe they should stick him in the car on fridays, it could benefit all!
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Only Japanese driver to score a front row start or finish as high as 8th in the championship, and I should think he has more points than anyone else once you adjust everyone's results to the same points system. I'd still say Ukyo Katayama was a more capable driver though, and perhaps Tora Takagi would've really shone in a Japanese team with no language or cultural barrier.
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