[WTCC] Race 5 & 6 - Valencia (SPA), 17/18 May 2008 - Page 3

andy_b · 28 Apr 2008, 19:10 (Ref:2189488)

touring car times has been updated to reflect its a petrol Leon

Lam Pak · 3 May 2008, 04:43 (Ref:2193003)

why no asia drivers yet?

JorritVD · 3 May 2008, 09:05 (Ref:2193074)

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Originally Posted by Lam Pak

why no asia drivers yet?

In Okayama and Macau I think we will see some asian drivers.

**FIRE** · 6 May 2008, 18:10 (Ref:2195393)

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OFFICIAL TEST IN OSCHERSLEBEN
Before heading to Valencia, some WTCC teams will take part in a two-day official test at Oschersleben, Germany, this week. The test will be held on Tuesday and Wednesday, May 6th and 7th, in preparation for the championship event

that will be hosted by the German track later in the season, on August 30th and 31st.

The following teams have confirmed their participation, making a total of eleven cars: BMW Team Germany, BMW Team Italy-Spain, BMW Team UK, Chevrolet, N.technology, SEAT Sport and Russian Bears Motorsport.

Media representatives who wish to attend the test are kindly asked to contact Motorsport Arena Oschersleben's press officer, Gunnar Sperling (tel: +49 3949 920525, fax: +49 3949 920660, email: presse@motorsportarena.com).

Source: WTCC PR

Any times available?

EDIT: http://www.mstworld.com/msptresult.a...esultfile=wtc1

werner · 6 May 2008, 21:34 (Ref:2195530)

Lada 5 sec. of the pace. That's probably 4 when van Lagen takes over the wheel. So another 1-2 sec./lap to gain to catch the back of the field.

**Dani Filth** · 7 May 2008, 06:59 (Ref:2195732)

pretty much where I expected them to be

andy_b · 13 May 2008, 01:25 (Ref:2200629)

Hi guys n girls

I'm afraid I wont be able to get the WTCC Spotters Guide completed for this race. Work has been keeping me very busy of later and at the end of the day, that pays the bills.

Its 2/3rds done and reference from the 1st European round should make the guide when it appears more accurate

Sorry about that ( I await the angry email/pm/facebook from a Mr M. Haven esq

)

andy b

Valker · 14 May 2008, 07:17 (Ref:2201832)

Pre-race news from Artman Racing (Golden Motors):
http://artman-racing.ee/artman/?mid=46&id=54

helgi · 15 May 2008, 15:22 (Ref:2203178)

I think,it's the first time Russians have a strong pilots membership. Strong enough to fight for independants podium,I mean. Lvov is able to be in the front. Smetsky and Romanov in the middle. And Shapovalov against Okyay. I'm not a huge TCC fan,but I'll watch this race,of course.

Robbe · 15 May 2008, 15:43 (Ref:2203194)

What Lvov showed in ETCC was very nice, but if it's the same Lvov that drove the STCC opener...

I rather think, Lvov and Romanov will be behind Engstler, but in front of Okyay, Shapovalov and Smetsky.

helgi · 15 May 2008, 16:36 (Ref:2203245)

I've got confused with Lvovs myself. There're two Alexandrs : one is a Russian touring'01 champion (Astra) and another started at the first STCC event at Audi's wheel (01champion tested A4 too,but hasn't decided to start there yet-WTCC has a higher priority). The second drive A4 in RTCC as well. But,which of them drive at ETC Cup?..

Ellmau · 15 May 2008, 18:30 (Ref:2203328)

I believe they both did. And to make it even more confusing, they are from the same city in Russia.

PorscheFanNo1 · 15 May 2008, 19:00 (Ref:2203346)

Yeah, they both ran ETC Cup last year, the 2nd Lvov tho ran in some Production class, and it was him that drove the A4 at Sturup this year and crashed on the warmup lap all by himself.
The 1st Lvov is the one that drives the Honda for Artman and drove the same in ETC Cup last year (and did it very well), its also him that drove at Sturup last year in the Honda and also tested the same A4 in STCC this year at Knutstorp that the other Lvov later crashed.

Thats how I understand it anyway. Confusing? Yes!

werner · 15 May 2008, 19:23 (Ref:2203363)

It's easy: there is a slow and a fast Lvov.

Valenok · 16 May 2008, 05:58 (Ref:2203683)

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Originally Posted by PorscheFanNo1

The 1st Lvov is the one that drives the Honda for Artman and drove the same in ETC Cup last year (and did it very well), its also him that drove at Sturup last year in the Honda and also tested the same A4 in STCC this year at Knutstorp that the other Lvov later crashed.

Is it the same, who drove in WTCC Anderstorp last year? He was in Accord too, but another team, in black colours.

stedevil · 16 May 2008, 06:59 (Ref:2203697)

Helgi, could you dig up the отчество for both these Alexandr Lvov? Should make it a lot easier to separate them from each other.

Bramzel · 16 May 2008, 07:49 (Ref:2203728)

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Originally Posted by Valenok

Is it the same, who drove in WTCC Anderstorp last year? He was in Accord too, but another team, in black colours.

Same team, different color

helgi · 16 May 2008, 07:49 (Ref:2203729)

Shame on me,I don't know my Motherland's autosport history... Mikhail Lvov,champion of Soviet F-2 (1977), - father of Alexandr Lvov,Russian Touring champion(2001). So,he's Alexandr Mikhailovich Lvov.
And another is Alexandr V. Lvov. I couldn't find the full name yet,but it got clearer

Valker · 16 May 2008, 13:54 (Ref:2204027)

Test results: http://www.mstworld.com/msptresult.a...esultfile=wtc1

stedevil · 16 May 2008, 14:43 (Ref:2204081)

Great Helgi, now we at least have some better way of separating them than eg "the one that crashed during the warmup lap".

gwyllion · 16 May 2008, 15:23 (Ref:2204119)

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Originally Posted by Valker

Test results: http://www.mstworld.com/msptresult.a...esultfile=wtc1

This makes you wonder why diesels got extra restrictions

pzijko · 16 May 2008, 19:35 (Ref:2204338)

This morning Seat has extreme luck. Some early starting BMW Mechanics noticed there was smoke coming out of the Seat pitbox, they broke the garage door open and discovered a fire in the pitbox. They extinquished the fire on time.
NO serious damage was done to the car, a lot of smoke damage happened though.

Luck nr2 for Seat was that the Seat mechanics worked late the night before, and decided to leave the task of putting the 600 liter of fuel in the pitbox the day after. Imagine what would have happened if those cans of fuel would have been in the pitbox during that fire!!

stedevil · 16 May 2008, 21:54 (Ref:2204403)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

This makes you wonder why diesels got extra restrictions

Well, the SEATs with all that extra sussess balast SHOULD be so far behind. Though I would have prefered them to wait with seeing at least 1 race weekend on normal altitude before changes, a proper rev limit for diesels arguably should have been there from the start.

Bramzel · 16 May 2008, 22:31 (Ref:2204423)

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Originally Posted by pzijko

Luck nr2 for Seat was that the Seat mechanics worked late the night before, and decided to leave the task of putting the 600 liter of fuel in the pitbox the day after. Imagine what would have happened if those cans of fuel would have been in the pitbox during that fire!!

A little question regarding this near-disaster. What would the fact that that fuel would have been diesel instead of petrol have changed about the occasion? I suck at science, but I do remember that diesel burns differently than petrol, could anybody here explain the difference there?

redshoes · 17 May 2008, 08:18 (Ref:2204560)

It's been too many years since I was last in a physics class but from memory one burns slower at a lower temperature the other explodes in a quick blast at a higher temperature.

To be honest, with 600 litres of in an enclosed space, either way it's not going to be pretty.

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