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Old 11 Oct 2003, 12:57 (Ref:747203)   #1
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"130r"

Well I'd been fairly negative towards changing 130R, but I reckon the changes are pretty good. We are left with a corner that seems to be a lovely high speed challenge...
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 12:57 (Ref:747204)   #2
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Just like 130 R then.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 12:59 (Ref:747207)   #3
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 13:16 (Ref:747220)   #4
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Q: There is a new layout to the circuit. Is it going to make overtaking easier? What do you think of it?
JPM: I think 130R before was easier than now. This is a bit wider but there is a couple of bumps thrown in so it makes life quite interesting.

Q: And what about the chicane? Are you braking as hard for the chicane as you were before?
JPM: Yeah, probably the entrance is a bit wider but you have got to have the balls to follow somebody through 130R.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 14:25 (Ref:747260)   #5
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I don't really like it. It seems.........too wide to be all that challenging.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 14:56 (Ref:747289)   #6
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JPM: Yeah, probably the entrance is a bit wider but you have got to have the balls to follow somebody through 130R.

Yes, a very good reminder of what it actually takes to drive an F1 car at this level.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 15:13 (Ref:747307)   #7
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I don't like it.
I like it the way it was. It was a more exciting corner.
The work should have been put tward safty helping the car come to a nice safe stop if someone lost it.

Also the last corner should have been left alone. It was slow yes but there was good place to overtake. I hope I'm wrong about that and it's still a good place to overtake coming into it.

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Old 11 Oct 2003, 15:22 (Ref:747314)   #8
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The trouble with the old corner was that due to the positioning of the bridge and layout there was no way to make the run off safe.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 15:31 (Ref:747318)   #9
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Not sure about that one. It was safe enough for McNish last year.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 15:33 (Ref:747320)   #10
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There is safe and F1 safe.

I mean this in two ways: Fristly F1 cars are quicker and need more run off, secondly F1 can be a bit namby-pamby sometimes.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 15:49 (Ref:747336)   #11
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Martin Brundle picked up on a good point at 130R during his track walk, on the exit of the corner there's a very sandy patch which is likely to get washed down the track if it rains heavily.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 15:56 (Ref:747343)   #12
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Martin Brundle picked up on a good point at 130R during his track walk, on the exit of the corner there's a very sandy patch which is likely to get washed down the track if it rains heavily.
Hmmm, I wonder if this was why Kimi avoided the right hand side on the exit on his one flying Q lap?

Probably not, but maybe.
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 16:10 (Ref:747359)   #13
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touringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridtouringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridtouringlegend should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Don't know why it's like that..maybe drivers running wide!
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Old 11 Oct 2003, 16:47 (Ref:747396)   #14
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The old 130r would weed out the men from the boys.
You'd get some doing it flat out and some would opt to lift.
Now the new 130r you can do flat out.

YUP and JV wouldn't lift.
Had to throw that in

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Old 12 Oct 2003, 06:23 (Ref:747822)   #15
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Dani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridDani Filth should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
neither would MS .. had to throw this in also
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Old 12 Oct 2003, 11:06 (Ref:748133)   #16
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Now the new 130r you can do flat out.
I thought this would be the case, however I am not sure it was.
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Old 12 Oct 2003, 11:50 (Ref:748193)   #17
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Didn't sound like it from the on boards anyway.
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Old 12 Oct 2003, 14:11 (Ref:748359)   #18
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They wern't 100% flatout I don't think.

I have watched Kimi's Qual1 lap a few times now and I think he does lift slightly.

I think it the conditions were warmer and less "slippy" they might have floored it round there.

Still a fine corner though!
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Old 13 Oct 2003, 14:32 (Ref:749683)   #19
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I recall last year where SPEED TV paid attention during qualifying and listed to some guys who didn't lift
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