TilkeWannabe's Tracks - Page 4

Yannick · 9 Jun 2008, 18:29 (Ref:2223995)

First of all, I'd like to say that I didn't intend to annoy you with my rather opinionated comment. In retrospect, the development of this thread clearly shows that I hadn't understood the concept of the track in question at all.
I completely agree with bio that this track offers a lot for spectators, with lots of overtaking opportunities at the hairpins and with a good view of the pitlane. I have experienced it myself, too, that tracks don't go down too well with the other people on the board, especially those that are a bit wild in some aspects. You've got every right to still like your design, just like I still like my "Cape Verdishe".

SBF, you have solved the runoff problem of the bridge. But may I suggest an underpass instead, to regain visibility of the braking zone in Turn 1 for spectators?

Alwaysfirst: Your edit turns the original sketch into a fine track for touring cars and smaller formulae. Thanks for posting!

TilkeWannabe · 10 Jun 2008, 04:15 (Ref:2224369)

Yannick, I would like to see your "Cape Verdishe". Post it here if you want or if it's already on the forum somewhere, plz tell me where.

SBF, thx for the edit, I really should've thought of tightening the corners before and after the bridge, but it's an older track and I wouldn't have known to do that when I designed it. It was a looong time ago, for me that is.

TilkeWannabe · 10 Jun 2008, 05:54 (Ref:2224393)

I have changed the 1st sector for the Launceston track. Sorry it's a bit messy but it was done during class on Paint. Enjoy.

bio · 10 Jun 2008, 12:08 (Ref:2224732)

I think it was a definite improvement of a track that was quite good anyways. You changed two of the spots I would have.

bio

TilkeWannabe · 11 Jun 2008, 05:52 (Ref:2225409)

How great minds think alike!!!

Yannick · 11 Jun 2008, 17:39 (Ref:2225990)

Now that is much better! You've indeed fixed the three troublesome spots.

As for "Cape Verdishe", look for it in the "Opening My Archive" thread. It must be around Track #11 or #12 in there.

TilkeWannabe · 12 Jun 2008, 03:20 (Ref:2226594)

Thx much. On my way!

TilkeWannabe · 12 Jun 2008, 04:02 (Ref:2226600)

I found it! I had to use a proxy site (basically a site that unblocks bad sites) to get into it because that particular thread is banned at my school, dunno why? Anyway, I read a comment that SBF had put in it and it said that he "didn't like racing around piers and walls".

The track....well it didn't look that bad but there was a bit that looked like a mushroom at the bottom left of the track with 2 really tight hairpins at the bottom of each side. It was odd at first, but I wouldn't have 2 hairpins there. If it was based around real piers I'd understand why you did what you did, but yeah, I don't like the idea of 2 hairpins there. That's all I'd change.

TilkeWannabe · 14 Jun 2008, 07:50 (Ref:2228249)

Now for my ENGINE-BREAKER!! GRRRRRRRRR! Oh, enjoy

This is another one of my absolute favoruite tracks. It would go anywhere in Italy, for Ferrari to use of course! Very fast, 5 long straights for slipstreaming, and the odd slow corner to slow the cars down. The pitlane is outrageously long but I can change that if you guys don't do so. With all the fast straights and especially the longish left-hander at the top, IMO, I'd say that is one hell of an engine-breaker!

I leave it up to YOU to say whether it's good or not.

Tathrim · 14 Jun 2008, 10:19 (Ref:2228309)

I would say that it would be very fast, certainly, but fast isn't always good for spectators. Maybe shortening a couple of the straights would increase the flow of the circuit.

TilkeWannabe · 14 Jun 2008, 12:52 (Ref:2228408)

Good point, but not every car that could potentially race on the track goes as fast as an F1 car, do they. Shortening the circuits is also a good point mentioned in your post, which could be arranged, if I remembered!

bio · 14 Jun 2008, 21:29 (Ref:2228915)

There is a big problem with tracks with many straights (and, i guess, that's why you don't have too many of them in real life): you'll either end up with a very long track or short straights. Both have their evident drawbacks.

Plus: the exit of the bottom, tilted-but-near-horizontal shorter straight seems way too close to the penultimate hairpin.

I know it would kill the original idea, but I'd leave the "L" (or hockey-stick) shaped section out altogether.

Purist · 15 Jun 2008, 02:29 (Ref:2229081)

What's wrong with long circuits?

BTW, I've been listening to Le Mans all day.

TilkeWannabe · 15 Jun 2008, 04:11 (Ref:2229115)

THE AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX IS HERE TO STAY!!!!!! YIPPEE!!!!!!

Bio

Would you really take out the "Hockey Stick" part? That would completely ruin the shape of the track.

The tilted-but-near-horizontal shorter straight looks quite close and that can be changed.

BTW, Purist has a point with long circuits. They're not all bad. But the long Le Mans circuit only gets used once a year, so it's not a permanent long circuit like mine could be.

TilkeWannabe · 15 Jun 2008, 09:13 (Ref:2229227)

Before I forget

Bio, are you going to contribute any more new designs on "Bio's Tracks" because it's been a long time in 10 10ths time since you last posted on it. If your life is busy at this current time, I understand. I can wait!

BTW, I feel quite simple in the head for not knowing before; I NOW know what a "dreaded" Double Post is!

TilkeWannabe · 15 Jun 2008, 09:23 (Ref:2229233)

Here it goes with a double post....... An alternative for Brno. I admit it's a bit different compared to the other tracks I've posted, and it's been posted the wrong way up. I'm expecting criticism on this one as always.

bio · 15 Jun 2008, 10:35 (Ref:2229266)

TW,

that "long track" thing is all my fault - I was thinking of your track as a GP venue and thought it might be too long for that. But you never mentioned this would be a F' track, did you?

As for my own thread: I've decided to give Sketchup another shot and I've been working on that. It's near completition. Once I'm, done with that I'll get back to my good old mapmaking software though

TilkeWannabe · 16 Jun 2008, 01:28 (Ref:2229789)

Don't mention it, man! Good news with your thread by the way, but you didn't say what you thought about "Prague".

bio · 16 Jun 2008, 07:15 (Ref:2229869)

Well, I like the flow and that it has more than one true overtaking points. Would be good to know the track and straight lengths.

Which is the "main" pitlane? The bottom might be better on the other side - that way the vehicles wouldn't come out to the racing line. But, unfortuantely, the other side would not provide enough room for a paddock area. Maybe reversing the race direction and putting the pitlane on the other straight, just above the one it's on now would solve this minor problem.

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 16 Jun 2008, 11:32 (Ref:2229996)

To be honest, the two long hairpin sections do nothing for this track. The section on the right has the makings of a good circuit.

Perhaps even just scaled up a bit to be a proper circuit in it's own right with the pilane exit before T1. And if you wanted some extra length on the circuit, then a hairpin section something like this might be more flowing.

TilkeWannabe · 17 Jun 2008, 04:10 (Ref:2230547)

Bio, The pitlane in the bottom left is the main straight and the shorter straight with pitlane is the S/F straight for the short circuit.

SBF, Thx for the edit. The straight you extended was a good idea. The 2 hairpins at the bottom wasn't one of my best ideas. The short straight was probably a tad short to begin with. Could you plz elaborate a bit on this "scaling up a bit" thing you mention sometimes. Also, it's good to know that at least SOME of my track has potential. Thx again.

bio · 17 Jun 2008, 08:10 (Ref:2230613)

y all of your tracks have potential.

bio · 17 Jun 2008, 08:11 (Ref:2230614)

How did that happen??? That's not what i typed in... I said "I think all of your tracks..."

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 17 Jun 2008, 12:18 (Ref:2230762)

Scaling up a bit....

Simply as in the above circuit, the part that I've choosen to edit and create a new circuit could be a little on the short side (before I added the hairpin loop), and also the space where you have marked the pitlane might be a little narrow for a paddock and access etc.

So in this one, scaling up would simply mean rather than the whole of the original circuit being of GP length, suggesting that the "new" circuit have the S/F of around 800m+ and the rest of the circuit would then be scaled off that, giving an overall length in the F1/GP range.

On that scale the distance between the S/F and the short parallel straight would be around 250-300m which is more than plenty for run-off where needed, footings for a bridge or tunnel base as well as the pitlane (now with entry and exit both on the straight), garages and other buildings plus of course space for the support series as well.

TilkeWannabe · 18 Jun 2008, 01:28 (Ref:2231567)

Ohhhhh, I see. Thx SBF.

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