what a comeback!

Jukebox · 18 Mar 2002, 08:56 (Ref:238157)

While most threads compliments the William's drivers and contended the FIA ruling on the drive thru penalty imposed on JPM plus the swerve made by TGF from one side to the other.

This thread is all about congratulating TGF on his spectacular effort from being number 21 and driving his way up to third spot at the end of the race!

Not many people can do that..certainly proves he's the best!...remembered DC doing it in Monaco last year though, but McLaren is such a failure these days with their inconsistency.

drexel · 18 Mar 2002, 09:05 (Ref:238163)

The best thing was that Michael pushed right 'till the end and it payed off with Jenson's car failure. An extra point for not backing off even though there was no realistic chance.

calais · 18 Mar 2002, 09:08 (Ref:238165)

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Originally posted by Jukebox
While most threads compliments the William's drivers and contended the FIA ruling on the drive thru penalty imposed on JPM plus the swerve made by TGF from one side to the other.

This thread is all about congratulating TGF on his spectacular effort from being number 21 and driving his way up to third spot at the end of the race!

Not many people can do that..certainly proves he's the best!...remembered DC doing it in Monaco last year though, but McLaren is such a failure these days with their inconsistency.

yes, it was a spectacular comeback by montoya, wasnt it!!!

Jukebox · 18 Mar 2002, 09:11 (Ref:238167)

Yeah!..poor Rubens who was forced out of the race, if not it'll not be 1 and 2 for the Williams.

Lazarus · 18 Mar 2002, 09:18 (Ref:238172)

I wouldn't say MS drove spectacularly. The only reason he got in the points was due to everyone else's reliability. Even the commentators said it was a lackluster performance on his part... extremely lucky to get 3rd.

**Adam43** · 18 Mar 2002, 09:20 (Ref:238173)

Schumacher's comeback drive was pretty good and very efficient (apart from Bernoldi, but that was a great (short) dice). I didn't get to see most of Schumachr's drive through the field - even on digital because I didn't have chance to change the camera views. This was mainly because I was watching Montoya overtaking!

Montoya's was good too and he had to do it twice! Although he wasn't as far back. I particularly liked the (short) dice with Button. Side by side through the first corner and Montoya didn't get past until corner 4. Excellent stuff.

Jukebox · 18 Mar 2002, 09:25 (Ref:238176)

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Originally posted by Lazarus
I wouldn't say MS drove spectacularly. The only reason he got in the points was due to everyone else's reliability. Even the commentators said it was a lackluster performance on his part... extremely lucky to get 3rd.

Who was your race commentator? He didn't know what he was talking about.

Lazarus · 18 Mar 2002, 09:44 (Ref:238191)

It was Brundle and Allen but that's besides the point... to say he drove an amazing comeback when he really didn't have any challenges is stupid. In a normal race distance he usually laps most of the field (as do the Macs and Williams's), so tell me what was so special about this "comeback"? everyone retiring in front of him? he didn't overtake a williams nor a Mac .... not even his team mate (which wouldn't be hard now would it...hehe).

calais · 18 Mar 2002, 09:54 (Ref:238200)

to say schui's comeback was spectacular is a bit neave. he was driving around like an old woman,struggling to overtake an arrows with a pay driver.i doubt he wouldve passed either mclaren, wiiliams or rubens,{actually he would've passed rubens after the toad imposed team orders}

f1manoz · 18 Mar 2002, 10:03 (Ref:238204)

TGF certainly did drive well to get to third, but not spectacular, and was very lucky (how much does this guy have?) to get on the podium, thanks to the retirements of both McLarens and Barrichello, and only got on the podium due to Buttons misfortune.

But TGF did push all the way until the end, and credit where credit is due. He did get on the podium. That's all that really counts in the end.

However, IMO, JPM was more spectacular. His dices with Button were fantastic.

Mr V · 18 Mar 2002, 10:28 (Ref:238218)

he really really struggled to get past the saubers didn't he? i thought that heidfeld was gonna end up in the barriers he jumped that far out of the way!

strad · 18 Mar 2002, 10:42 (Ref:238226)

Jukebox;
It makes it a lot easier when half of them just move out of the way for you!

drexel · 18 Mar 2002, 10:46 (Ref:238228)

Considering most ppl have said they didn't get to see Montoya or Michael coming back through the field...how can it be so certain that JPM's drive was more spectacular?
Remember Michael had to drive the first lap without a front wing aswell, with traffic everywhere.

Mr V · 18 Mar 2002, 10:51 (Ref:238234)

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Originally posted by drexel
Considering most ppl have said they didn't get to see Montoya or Michael coming back through the field...how can it be so certain that JPM's drive was more spectacular?
Remember Michael had to drive the first lap without a front wing aswell, with traffic everywhere.

i watched jpm onboard through sky digital and i can assure you it was spectacular!

granted i didn't watch so much of tgf but what i did see was.2 saubers jumping out of the way, 1 limping renault which couldn't put up a fight and 1 arrows only to be overtaken by it again! (admittidly getting past it again!)

drexel · 18 Mar 2002, 10:59 (Ref:238241)

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he didn't overtake a williams nor a Mac .... not even his team mate

And Montoya did?

Actually i doubt 95% of either's passes were anything special...mostly just passing ppl down the straights with quicker cars..

Cougar · 18 Mar 2002, 13:38 (Ref:238365)

Being a Shumi fan I was impressed by his comeback. Also I think JPM's was just as good.

Yes they BOTH were lucky that so many dropped out before them but that is how the penny drops? No?

Inigo Montoya · 18 Mar 2002, 13:44 (Ref:238369)

Don't think TGF's car was right after the incident at the first corner.

J.McClane · 18 Mar 2002, 13:55 (Ref:238380)

I don't think Shu's drive was that good(not as good as some others i have seen him do).
Yeah he got up from 21st to 3rd...........but did you not see most of the other drivers infront of him fall off the track, the only time he was catchin' the top 2 was when they were slowin' down cos they were on the last couple of laps

alesi95 · 18 Mar 2002, 13:58 (Ref:238384)

No I have to agree there. It was MS usually "knife through butter" comeback. I think it was probably because the accident ruined their pit strategy as well.

Patrick Head said that Montoyas strategy was a quicker one than Ralfs, But I dont believe that. Although Im a JPM fan I have to say Ralfs performance was dominate today and I dont think anyone could have beaten him.

What a comeback in performance from Ralf after a lackluster end of last season.

Fuel · 18 Mar 2002, 14:10 (Ref:238394)

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Originally posted by Cougar21
Being a Shumi fan I was impressed by his comeback. Also I think JPM's was just as good.

Yes they BOTH were lucky that so many dropped out before them but that is how the penny drops? No?

well ms's drive was good, in that he didn't yield to the thought of of being dead last. other drivers may have folded at the thought, like, and i hate to say it, dc, but this just shows the desire for ms to try and win every race. this is a quality that all of us can admire.

Nicholas · 18 Mar 2002, 14:17 (Ref:238402)

Yes, it was fairly decent but mainly for managing to get back to the pits with zero downforce. The rest should be fairly simple, considering that this is a car built by a championship winning team. He didn't have to overtake anyone within the "Big 3" and his afternoon IMO was probably a bit like what might happen if blue flags didn't exist.

Cougar · 18 Mar 2002, 14:40 (Ref:238416)

I agree Fuel.. he was there to pick up the pieces at the end. That sounds harsh but I don't know how else to put it.
Anyways Fuel, "laat die goed gaan

" Glad to see a fellow SA on here

When are we gonna get a race???

race aficionado · 18 Mar 2002, 15:17 (Ref:238436)

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Originally posted by mr v

i watched jpm onboard through sky digital and i can assure you it was spectacular!

mr v,
just to get away from all of this kamikaze swerve / corner unavoidable collision thing for a moment,
let me let you know how jealous I am of your undeniable fortune to have been able to witness that spectacular view.

Dam! I want my sky digital
- or anything that resembles it - (I'm in NYC)

Anyway, back to the comeback issue . . . . .

Schumacher · 18 Mar 2002, 16:02 (Ref:238466)

It was a great drive by Schumy.To come from 21st to finish 3rd is awesome.Not only was he 21st but quite a way down from the 20th runner.

He was obviously ****ed of at what the weasel did to him at the start and fought back brilliantly.But he is a great driver so even with the problem with his car,I would not expect any less from Schumy.

Speed · 18 Mar 2002, 17:52 (Ref:238556)

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Originally posted by Jukebox
Yeah!..poor Rubens who was forced out of the race, if not it'll not be 1 and 2 for the Williams.

Hacking Jenson and RB's cars, Ferrari's two-way telemetry worked well to get a podium slot for "Mr. Chop"...

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