Oreca 2007-2011 - Page 2

Marcel ten Caat · 14 Sep 2007, 17:53 (Ref:2012988)

That is correct.

jhansen · 14 Sep 2007, 17:54 (Ref:2012989)

Well that was certainly unexpected. At least to me...

Speed-King · 14 Sep 2007, 17:59 (Ref:2012994)

http://www.oreca.fr/index.aspx?Rubrique=0&News=165

Press-Release (in French). Can someone summarize it, I don't understand a whole lot.

ThePenguin · 14 Sep 2007, 18:02 (Ref:2012996)

I didn't see that coming, I wonder how this will all play out. I expect that it won't be too long before Oreca announces that they have a contract with a road car manufacturer for the anticipated regulations.

Fogelhund · 14 Sep 2007, 18:04 (Ref:2013000)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom908V12

ORECA would BUY COURAGE-COMPETITION team, according to the first informations !!!

Some clarification sought. They will buy the racing team, or the manufacturer?

**FIRE** · 14 Sep 2007, 18:04 (Ref:2013002)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed-King

http://www.oreca.fr/index.aspx?Rubrique=0&News=165

Press-Release (in French). Can someone summarize it, I don't understand a whole lot.

In English:
http://www.oreca.fr/index.aspx?Rubrique=0&News=165

Frank · 14 Sep 2007, 18:05 (Ref:2013003)

So now what happens to the saleen cars and program??? for next year

Speed-King · 14 Sep 2007, 18:05 (Ref:2013004)

Nevermind.

Thanks for the English one, FIRE.

Fogelhund · 14 Sep 2007, 18:09 (Ref:2013007)

http://www.oreca.fr/index.aspx?Rubrique=0&News=165

Press release in English.

They've purchased the full manufacturing company, and Yves will stay on.

HORNDAWG · 14 Sep 2007, 18:15 (Ref:2013012)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

http://www.oreca.fr/index.aspx?Rubrique=0&News=165

Press release in English.

They've purchased the full manufacturing company, and Yves will stay on.

Where does this put Acura? Is there some future link between Oreca and Acura?

L.P.

Tom908V12 · 14 Sep 2007, 18:19 (Ref:2013016)

Indeed that's a very good news for LMP1 and that's somewhat more ambitious than Embassy's project !!

**FIRE** · 14 Sep 2007, 18:24 (Ref:2013021)

This is a big surprise for me. I had the impression Oreca had already the knowledge and experience to build a prototype.

I am sure it will boost the performance (speed & reliability; see Oreca Saleens) of the Courage LMP1/LMP2 prototypes.

Will they use the Courage name in the future or do they switch to Oreca name?

It's nice to see Yves Courage be involved in the future.

Quote:

The project of the future prototype should be unveiled in early November.

Closed LMP1?

ger80 · 14 Sep 2007, 18:27 (Ref:2013024)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank

To the best of my knowledge, S7 department of Saleen is up for sale. no new cars are getting built, especially race cars. The workforce at the factory is down to less than a handful after recent layoffs.

Maybe they will buy another company and we will get a S7 LMP1? Ok, only dreams ....

pitviper · 14 Sep 2007, 18:34 (Ref:2013031)

The first thing I thought of was also the Acura connection. It will be a very interesting road ahead...

pit

Tom908V12 · 14 Sep 2007, 18:47 (Ref:2013037)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

...

Closed LMP1?

Good question !! I really hope so !!!

pitviper · 14 Sep 2007, 19:03 (Ref:2013047)

That's the way it seems judging from some of the comments by Hughes. I'm certainly looking forward to it! And it also goes along with the current GT1 regulations being phased out in regrads to the S7R project being perhaps, "placed aside".

pit

JAG · 14 Sep 2007, 19:48 (Ref:2013071)

Great news, Oreca's expertise and enthusiasm should be able to push the current P1 right to the front of the grid.

It also sounds like the new reg P1 Coupe should compete from 2009!

Hammerdown · 14 Sep 2007, 21:07 (Ref:2013129)

Great news indeed. Hopefully the Courage should now be able to show its true potential.

Zytek_Fan · 14 Sep 2007, 23:43 (Ref:2013238)

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRE

This is a big surprise for me. I had the impression Oreca had already the knowledge and experience to build a prototype.

I am sure it will boost the performance (speed & reliability; see Oreca Saleens) of the Courage LMP1/LMP2 prototypes.

Will they use the Courage name in the future or do they switch to Oreca name?

It's nice to see Yves Courage be involved in the future.

Closed LMP1?

This represents a huge step forward for Courage, and that overall victory that has eluded Yves for almost 30 years

edit: I'm thinking either Judd or Peugeot power (not quite sure if Peugeot would sell customer engines, but they did indicate at the 1000km of Nurburgring that they would consider customer cars next year)

broadrun96 · 15 Sep 2007, 01:15 (Ref:2013276)

First thought on the buyout was does Acura try their own hand at ground up or do they have a long-term tub contract? Hoping that Oreca allows the Acura tubs to continue even if it could be some LMP1 competition in the future. Now to see who they join up with, engine supplier or manufacturer support.

yamato · 15 Sep 2007, 01:31 (Ref:2013280)

there is some further clarification at endurance info:

-The cars will be badged at Courage-ORECA
-One team will work on the new P1 car
-Annother team will concentrate on developing the P2 car
-They have not finalized if the P1 will be a 2008 or 2009 program
-They are leaning towards sooner rather than later
-No decision yet made on Saleen program, but they will not operate the two programs at the same time

So if the P1 car is a go for 2008 then the Saleen program is history. If the P1 program is pushed back to 2009, Saleens may stay for one more year.

HORNDAWG · 15 Sep 2007, 03:30 (Ref:2013313)

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadrun96

First thought on the buyout was does Acura try their own hand at ground up or do they have a long-term tub contract? Hoping that Oreca allows the Acura tubs to continue even if it could be some LMP1 competition in the future. Now to see who they join up with, engine supplier or manufacturer support.

By the look of it I believe that the tubs are outsourced as Courage is in a "joint venture" with SLC(Super Light Cars) / ATR Group. So it looks like SLC/ATR probably build the tubs. So hopefully there will not be an issue if Acura need tubs.(?)

L.P.

Nordic · 15 Sep 2007, 07:47 (Ref:2013395)

I doubt Oreca would stop the supply of anything that would generate cash.

It after all a buisness, so if Honda want to buy a spare tub, wishbone or a
3rd stage black override bottom bucket switch, oreca would supply it.

SLC/ATR may produce the tub, but to a Courage design and I doubt they would be able to sell it direct to anyone other than via Courage/Oreca

Hammerdown · 15 Sep 2007, 08:23 (Ref:2013426)

Would be nice if Mazda bankrolled the development of the AER V8 turbo with direct injection. They're already half way there!

The Badger · 15 Sep 2007, 19:39 (Ref:2013918)

Wasnt it Oreca who ran the 1991 Le Mans winning Mazda ? They already have very close links .

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