Vic Lee...

cos · 22 Jul 2005, 23:12 (Ref:1361112)

Now that the court case is over (a quick web search will reveal the outcome) is the subject allowed to be discussed on the forum...?

**Craig** · 23 Jul 2005, 08:35 (Ref:1361260)

All four pleaded guilty and received a total of 38 years between them, with Lee himself receiving 12 of those. Stupid stupid people.

ascarmarshal · 23 Jul 2005, 08:40 (Ref:1361262)

Lee only got 12 years. He was lucky. They should have thrown away the key. Second offence proves he didn't learn. He even tried to sue Customs for the return of his transporter seized in Operation Bounce.

ascarmarshal · 23 Jul 2005, 08:48 (Ref:1361268)

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Originally Posted by Craig

Stupid stupid people.

Not stupid but evil and greedy

BootsOntheSide · 23 Jul 2005, 09:41 (Ref:1361309)

Good riddance to him, I hope he sleeps easy at night. And I hope his past drivers can now accept that their success was bought with dirty money.

Kicking-back · 23 Jul 2005, 09:42 (Ref:1361311)

The book has been thrown at Lee, and rightly so.

But to suggest his drivers should have any guilt over this is ridiculous.

They would have known nothing.

Hip Priest · 23 Jul 2005, 10:10 (Ref:1361332)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

The book has been thrown at Lee, and rightly so.But to suggest his drivers should have any guilt over this is ridiculous.They would have known nothing.

Awww, are you sure we can't hand the 1992 BTCC title to John Cleland?

Mackmot · 23 Jul 2005, 10:44 (Ref:1361350)

Im sure he'll be back and stupid people will give him money to drive in his racing cars just like every other crook in the business.

Eddy V · 23 Jul 2005, 12:27 (Ref:1361429)

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Originally Posted by Mackmot

Im sure he'll be back and stupid people will give him money to drive in his racing cars just like every other crook in the business.

Can't agree more. Shame really.

ensign14 · 23 Jul 2005, 12:56 (Ref:1361454)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

And I hope his past drivers can now accept that their success was bought with dirty money.

As opposed to, say, Michael Schumacher, whose titles have been bought with child labour and cancer sticks.

I doubt if many sponsors are 100% ethically clean. Albeit this seems a rather egregious example.

However, it does demonstrate the total bull**** nature of our criminal system. Lee should still have been serving time for his original offence. How many kids have been hooked on drugs cos he was let out early for good behaviour? Should be the other way around - you serve your full sentence and if you are not behaving well you get 50% tacked on.

BootsOntheSide · 23 Jul 2005, 13:43 (Ref:1361479)

It's pretty saddening that Vic Lee will ever be released, a second offence of this magnitude should mean life imprisonment, especially from someone who didn't need to do this to survive or fund an addiction.

mark_l · 24 Jul 2005, 17:22 (Ref:1362151)

Vic Lee sentenced to 12 years, he'll be out peddaling drugs and causing misery in 6 years.

No doubt those in motorsport will forgive and forget, like they did last time.

I feel sorry for his genuine honest employees who will have their careers tainted by being associated with VLR.

ascarmarshal · 24 Jul 2005, 17:25 (Ref:1362155)

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Originally Posted by mark_l

Vic Lee sentenced to 12 years, he'll be out peddaling drugs and causing misery in 6 years.

No doubt those in motorsport will forgive and forget, like they did last time.

I feel sorry for his genuine honest employees who will have their careers tainted by being associated with VLR.

I will never forgive or forget what that lowlife druggie has done and I work in motorsport

Gaz · 24 Jul 2005, 17:28 (Ref:1362158)

Did this instance include [snipped name]? Just wondering as I heard him quoting about his future plans the other week.

**Craig** · 24 Jul 2005, 18:12 (Ref:1362187)

I don't believe that he was ever implicated in this situation, except in a few unsubstaniated rumours which were soon quashed.

Gaz · 24 Jul 2005, 18:15 (Ref:1362192)

Thanks for the confirmation Craig

yeltneb · 24 Jul 2005, 19:28 (Ref:1362253)

who where the other 3 people involved?

ascarmarshal · 24 Jul 2005, 19:32 (Ref:1362256)

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who where the other 3 people involved?

Jerry Mahoney was one, can't remember the other two

RSportRacer · 24 Jul 2005, 19:36 (Ref:1362260)

gotta say im really disapointed that its only 12 years..
should be much much much longer!

BootsOntheSide · 25 Jul 2005, 18:09 (Ref:1363118)

I don't think the other 2 defenants were motor racing people. But I agree that, for a second offence of such severity, 12 years isn't long enough.

RSportRacer · 25 Jul 2005, 21:13 (Ref:1363279)

it says on a news website, that all his assets had been seized.. hmm didnt his 307's get sold post his arrest???

Tim Wilkinson · 25 Jul 2005, 21:31 (Ref:1363295)

Was with a driver running an ex-vlr prepared car earlier this year when they found an amount of ballast in the rear panels. Cue much tongue in cheek disappointment that it was only lead and not the budget for that season.

Would that be ex-BTCC driver Jerry Mahoney?

BSchneiderFan · 25 Jul 2005, 22:32 (Ref:1363332)

This whole business leaves an unpleasant taste in the mouth. So sad to have memories of great drivers tainted by this ******.

BSchneiderFan · 25 Jul 2005, 22:33 (Ref:1363333)

(Incidentally, if anyone is interested, the word picked up by the autocensor referred to, shall we say, the act of self-love.)

andy_b · 25 Jul 2005, 22:40 (Ref:1363337)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

This whole business leaves an unpleasant taste in the mouth. So sad to have memories of great drivers tainted by this ******.

yeah, agreed and lots of people and companies seriously left out of pocket and in the case of one company, bust, by his actions. VLR's assets were seized, but I believe the 307's had already changed hands by then.

I hope BTCC or whoever considers any future VLR entry very carefully