Pirelli World Challenge

[Mechanic Z]

Porsche expecting a good number of Cayman GT4s in GTS next season:
http://sportscar365.com/gt/world-cha...t-mrs-for-pwc/

Possible the car could make it's PWC debut by the end of the season.

[Mechanic Z]

Always Evolving/AIM Autosport to expand to a 3 car effort next year!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/alway...54150880499724

Craig Dolby has been drafted in to drive the #33 this weekend.

[jjvincent]

There should be a Cayman by the end of the year. The GT4 version is literally the GS one right now with carbon doors, hood, lexan windshield and a different wing. It would take you longer to graphic the parts as compared to installing them.Those teams found out that to run GS cost $40K on top of the purchase price. Now another $7K on top of that. Too bad you can buy a clone for $130K but it's not allowed because it doesn't have the Porsche seal of approval.

I'd think there would be way more interest in a McLaren since it's only $55K cheaper. For $215K that will get you a car, spares and 4 extra sets of wheels. I don't know if you guys realize but you actually need spares on hand and more than the wheels on the car to actually race it. Imagine it you had two of them, you'd be saving $110K. Then you could have spares, wheels and the money to outfit the crew in swag and go testing.

The KTM is just as good of a deal and it has a motor in it from a Golf. The SIN is a bit more expensive but it has an old LS motor in it that will probably run 3 years without touching it. In the end, telling everyone that you are racing a McLaren just sounds way more cool (unless they have kids and they think you just bought a baby stroller) than something they have never heard of or even a Cayman.

Ford better go back to the Boss 302R prices from 2014 ($139K) because the $240K they currently want, is not going to get too much interest. The Ginetta is around $100K shipped to your door and used ones are around $60K. Maybe Ford will adjust their prices. As we all know P&M will build a new GT4 Camaro that nobody will be able to buy. Just like the GT3 Caddy you can't buy (but are supposed to be able to buy).

[Mechanic Z]

Further info on AE/AIM's 3 GT-R plans. They're going to be purchasing 3 of the newest iteration.

http://sportscar365.com/gt/world-cha...gram-for-2017/

[Mechanic Z]

KPAX/Flying Lizard are planning expansion to GTS with McLaren's new 570s GT4, alongside their 650s GT3s. Potential for anywhere from 3 to 5 cars total between the two classes!

***K-PAX Racing is poised to expand its PWC program to the GTS class next year with at least one new McLaren 570S GT4 car. “It makes sense for us to try and run a McLaren because our GT3 program will be McLaren again,” Flying Lizard program manager Darren Law told Sportscar365. “So that’s the main focus. If we can keep it all contained in one brand, that would be the goal.”
***Law said they could run anywhere from three to five cars total next year, between GT3 and GT4, with the team actively seeking customers for its planned expansion to GTS.

http://sportscar365.com/gt/world-cha...iday-notebook/

[TRspitfirefan]

Originally Posted by Mechanic Z

Always Evolving/AIM Autosport to expand to a 3 car effort next year!

Originally Posted by Mechanic Z

KPAX/Flying Lizard are planning expansion to GTS with McLaren's new 570s GT4, alongside their 650s GT3s. Potential for anywhere from 3 to 5 cars total between the two classes!
http://sportscar365.com/gt/world-cha...iday-notebook/

***GMG Racing is planning a four-car program in SprintX next year, with three new Porsche Cayman GT4 Clubsport MRs (GTS) and a Porsche 911 GT3 R (GT), according to team principal James Sofronas.

Lots of great news this weekend!

[TRspitfirefan]

From Racer.com

On the impact of global SRO BOP.
http://www.racer.com/pwc/item/133055...hammer-stilled

Pruett's take on the Davison penalty.
http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints...avison-penalty

[Coach Ep]

Why did they drop Barber for 2017? Next year it would have been 2 weeks after Long Beach. Surely that's not too much of a stretch for a pro series?

[JLGarcia]

Looks like WC's going w/ TCR in 2018 but in addition to the existing classes and not as a replacement.

So if I do the math correctly, 2018 will have:
Sprint GT Pro
Sprint GT Am
SprintX GT Pro
SprintX GT ProAm
SprintX GT Am
Sprint GTS Pro
Sprint GTS Am
SprintX GTS ProAm
SprintX GTS Am
Sprint GT3 Cup
SprintX GT3 Cup?
TCR
TC
TCA
TCB

At least whoever has their trophy contract will stay busy.

[Matt]

That's so dumb.

IMSA is thinking of adding TCR into CTSCC, and now PWC is doing it. Great way to divide entries and have small grids in both.

Someone should just revive the NATCC and run alongside IndyCar/NASCAR/IMSA as their own series instead of this crap.

[nasportscar]

Originally Posted by Matt

Someone should just revive the NATCC and run alongside IndyCar/NASCAR/IMSA as their own series instead of this crap.

NATCC revival would be sick

[Coach Ep]

Mills expected to step up to newer M6 + extended schedule next year:

http://sportscar365.com/gt/world-cha...-gt3-for-2017/

[Matt]

BOOOOOOOOOOOO

That Z4 is the best sounding GT3 car by MILES.

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by Matt

IMSA is thinking of adding TCR into CTSCC, and now PWC is doing it. Great way to divide entries and have small grids in both.

Doesn't seem to be an issue with GT3.

[Bcarr6]

Originally Posted by FormulaFox

Doesn't seem to be an issue with GT3.

Two different concepts of motor racing. Enduro and sprint, they can coexist happily

I see no issue with TCR in both either


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[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by Bcarr6

Two different concepts of motor racing. Enduro and sprint, they can coexist happily

I see no issue with TCR in both either

Indeed. Now, it's true that TCR is still a fairly new concept and may not take off in the States the way GT3 did, but at this time we simply have no way of knowing. Just got to wait until someone actually adds the class.

[nasportscar]

Here's a look into the future of the TC classes (not just TCR) http://nasportscar.com/a-peek-into-p...ng-car-future/

[jjvincent]

I suggest everyone go to Homestead at the end of November and see the first ever TCR race in America. If not, then fly to Europe and go see one live (Florida is much cheaper to fly to).

[Rcz]

So they want, meaning both IMSA and WC, to have TCR replace the cool looking home built cars with hatched backs?

K, sounds pointless to me but whatever.

[FormulaFox]

Originally Posted by Rcz

So they want, meaning both IMSA and WC, to have TCR replace the cool looking home built cars with hatched backs?

K, sounds pointless to me but whatever.

With IMSA at least, it sounded like they wanted it as an additional class, not a replacement for anything. Pretty sure PWC's the same, even if they include it in an existing class.

And frankly those TCR cars look pretty decent themselves if you ask me.

[MoMedic9019]

TCR is an answer to a question nobody had to ask. But someone did.

It's unecessary, and may cause more harm than good.

Now, I for one am fine with TCR as the cars are mega, but, I'd rather not compromise ST.

[jjvincent]

People do not have the ability to build racecars today. It's a lost art. So, you can only go to a manufacturer to do so. Buy a race ready car and just tune on it (pretty much like spec racing). Even though the cars look different, the BOP will take care of any one manufacturer running away with it. So, GT3, GT4 and TCR are just different looking cars that all do the same thing. If they don't, the BOP will fix it. This is why a car can run up front for a few races and be mid pack the next few. Sportscar fans want equality and no innovation, if they didn't then they would hate GT3, GT4 and TCR. Since they love it, then we should build a common core car and skin it to whatever you want it to be.

[MoMedic9019]

Originally Posted by jjvincent

People do not have the ability to build racecars today. It's a lost art.

This is a blatant lie.(you just don't realize it) The sanctioning bodies don't want to allow it because 'the show" and manufactuer money is more important than anything.

[schmidder]

Originally Posted by MoMedic9019

This is a blatant lie.(you just don't realize it) The sanctioning bodies don't want to allow it because 'the show" and manufactuer money is more important than anything.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say I think u both mean the same thing...think he meant that building race cars really isn't allowed anymore..but could be wrong..

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[jjvincent]

Originally Posted by schmidder

Gonna go out on a limb here and say I think u both mean the same thing...think he meant that building race cars really isn't allowed anymore..but could be wrong..

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The sanctioning bodies are telling everyone that. They claim that building a racecar today is too difficult for an independent team. Thus, only a manufacturer can do so. Plus, if you want to get into their series, this will keep you from having to spend a year of development on a new car just so by year two you can start being competitive. In a nutshell, instant success can be had without the work.

The reality is this. Sanctioning bodies want to go to a homologated format and then use BOP to adjust the performance levels. It's easier to adjust the level of performance and it allows anyone to just purchase a car and technically run up front right away. Plus you don't have to worry about your neighbor getting the unfair advantage because he knows that every racecar can be improved. It's against the rules to improve the car thus no cat and mouse game of slowing the car down yet the team finds an improvement to go just as fast.

The trick today is to go testing constantly and make sure you test at the track about a week or two before the event (especially when you just bought a new model). That way, you can come right out of the box and just do small tuning steps as opposed to starting from scratch. Since sanctioning bodies are saving teams money by eliminating promoter test days and just two practice sessions, teams now have to rent a track just to get the practice they need. In the end, teams with the most money will still do better as the current situation encourages that.

If you notice, just about every make of car does get a chance of winning at some time during the year because the BOP and homologation allows that to happen. Not happy today, all you have to do is complain and wait. You'll get your chance.