LMP2 Manufacturers and Engine Suppliers

[chernaudi]

From what I could tell, the Ligier low downforce kit is just basically the sprint kit with out the dive planes and a different front diffuser profile.

[tigas]

If that's true, that's a massive own goal by Onroak. Are LMP3s that profitable that the only way of supplying enough cars for all the buyers is to disregard other categories?

I had heard on RLM that everybody at Onroak was laying carbon fiber during winter to build LMP3s, even on Christmas Eve, maybe they had the engineers laying fiber as well?

And so, the Ginetta LMP3 debacle (which left a huge hole on the market for Onroak) keeps making more victims

[Damian Baldi]

Here, there is some interesting information about the Riley

Larry Holt speaks to DSC

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...programme.html

[Damian Baldi]

BTW, congratulation to Gibson, the engines has proved to be durable and very fast.

[knighty]

+1.....quite impressive considering the sweltering hot conditions

[chernaudi]

Better reliability than Porsche and Toyota. IMO, Porsche and Toyota were pushing things hard, while the simple by comparison Gibson V8s were able to take advantage of developments made over the years to get a fairy high revving flat crank V8 to be reliable.

And the GK428 V8 shares it lineage with the ZB408 that was a disaster in the Panoz LMP07, though in all disclosure, that whole car was a disaster, with only the paddle shift system being recycled on the LMP1 roadster face lift in '02.

[Mike E]

Originally Posted by Damian Baldi

BTW, congratulation to Gibson, the engines has proved to be durable and very fast.

I was going to say something similar. Must be a contender for racing engine of the year, if someone is handing out awards.

[canaglia]

Actually I was really skeptical about gibson/zytek engine. I thought that for lmp2 cars would fit better a 2.5-3.0 V6 turbo instead of a mid sized NA with basically the same figures of a street 458 speciale engine. But anyway, the engine made his work

[Dyson Mazda]

That Riley is a total piece of garbage. Mazda said that they don't have enough down-force at Mosport, the factory team was not even close at Le Mans, and I am starting to feel sorry for SoD at this point.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by Dyson Mazda

That Riley is a total piece of garbage. Mazda said that they don't have enough down-force at Mosport, the factory team was not even close at Le Mans, and I am starting to feel sorry for SoD at this point.

Watching the races its in, it looks like it's a parts bin prototype. The cockpit windscreen on every other prototype is the same width, but the Riley/Mazda is much wider. Just like their lmp3. Way too much drag on the car being reported and that's probably a big part of it.

[chernaudi]

The basic Riley is junk because they focused on the Mazda DPI, and under the current IMSA/ACO agreement, unless Multimatic wants to take the joker upgrades, not much of the development on the Mazda will translate to the Riley.

Granted, it seems that every time the last 20 years that Riley has tried to make a full carbon tubbed car, they failed. Their version of the Cadillac LMP900 was a failure, their Indy Car wasn't that good, and the same goes for the Riley LMP2.

That's ironic, since Bob Riley designed the Mustang GTP, the first successful LMP/GTP type car that used a carbon tub.

[TzeiTzei]

It seems to be very draggy and the straight line speeds are quite bad.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by TzeiTzei

It seems to be very draggy and the straight line speeds are quite bad.

Just look at it head on compared to every other lmp2 or lmp1. The wider cockpit is obvious and it must account for some of the drag it suffers from.

[Rcz]

How much boost do they give the Mazda?


I know the problems with the car probably isnt a lack power since the Lola version was actually very fast despite it being very old at the time. Which is a shame because the Mazda Dpi is very beautiful.

[Damian Baldi]

With just two cars sold, they should redesign all the car. It's slow, heavy and unreliable.

Check the link I have post some days ago, about Mutimatic to revise several parts of the car that had been delegated to Riley.

Their visit to Le Mans was the worse publicity they could had.