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Old 17 Jul 2017, 10:54 (Ref:3752112)   #256
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I haven't read everything yet (lunch break is coming to an end) but I think Signatech (the other car) already got a podium at Le Mans after Rebellion got thrown out of the results?
Yes, the #35 got elevated to 4th overall and 3rd in LMP2.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 11:12 (Ref:3752117)   #257
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I haven't read everything yet (lunch break is coming to an end) but I think Signatech (the other car) already got a podium at Le Mans after Rebellion got thrown out of the results?
Oh well spotted! Cheers for that.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 18:25 (Ref:3752210)   #258
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And here's a little debrief. Formatting might be slightly off due to a copy and paste from the web editor.

» Porsche's decision to swap their cars has been met with mixed emotions. Neel Jani and Andre Lotterer were visibly frustrated post-race. Rather than create drama on circuit, Porsche opted to hold the leading #1 car longer for its final pit stop, allowing the #2 to take the lead. The decision was clearly championship based, as it allowed the #2 Porsche to extend its lead over the #8 Toyota in the championship.

» Tyre wear and rubber pick-up was an issue throughout the race. Pickup was visible on the 'honking holes' on the front wheel arches of the Toyotas from the onboard cameras. Both Porsche's suffered from aero degradation at various points in the race. Both teams had mechanics wiping clean the rear gurney flaps to dislodge built up rubber. High tyre wear was expected, but perhaps not to this extent. LMP1 teams only had 4 new sets of tyres to work with during the race, requiring double stints of a set.

» Toyotas opening pace was surprisingly quick. The leading Toyota in the hands of Kobayashi managed to hold off the Porsche's for the first 90 minutes of the race. As tyre wear became an issue and the track rubbered in, Lopez was unable to hold the lead and slipped to 30 seconds back in a stint.

»*Fantastic pit work from the Toyota mechanics managed to turn the #8 car around after only losing 5 laps. A faulty fuel pump was changed in just 8 minutes. The car proved hard to service at Le Mans, a fact which cost them the overall victory. The quick repair allowed the #8 car to recover to 4th overall, and minimise the loss of championship points.

» The #26 G-Drive car was hampered by penalties throughout the weekend. The car was carrying a 3 minute stop and hold after Le Mans, but being sent to the back of the grid after failing post qualifying scrutineering rubbed salt into the wounds. The car recovered strongly to 6th in class, overhauling both Manors and the sister TDS Racing car. The 26 was extremely fast throughout the weekend and will be a thorn in the side of the championship contenders for the rest of the season.

» The #38 Jackie Chan DC Racing victory can largely be credited to a strong middle stint by the Silver driver. Thomas Laurent extended the gap after the car was handed to him, whilst the Rebellion's lost ground. It gives the Mighty 38 a massive 27 point lead over their team mates.

» The first round of the auto-BoP system has now been run and might raise some questions. Aston Martin showed strong single lap pace, but were unable to translate this over a race distance. As the only team running Dunlops, it could be that tyre wear was a bigger issue for them. Porsche and Ferrari made gains during the race, whilst Ford were the most vocal about the unfavourable BoP.

» Keita Sawa deserves a mention for his excellent drive in the last few hours. As the TV focused on the titanic Aston Martin versus Ford battle, Sawa was in the back of every frame, matching time with the factory cars. Whilst laps down and not in contention for a pass, it was a very visible show of speed and consistency from the Japanese driver.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 19:39 (Ref:3752225)   #259
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... whilst Ford were the most vocal about the unfavourable BoP.
No?! I find that difficult to believe........


Nice summary - thanks a lot. I had a busy weekend and couldn't really keep up with the goings-on.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 19:47 (Ref:3752229)   #260
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And didn't Porsche try and redesign parts of the car to prevent those problems? They had issues last year, and so did Audi. Maybe it's time to ditch the open front diffuser design in favor of the Oreca 07's approach or like what Toyota have done with their take on the Bentley style nose.

And sour grapes much, Toyota? They tried to protest to the ACO over Porsche cleaning mirrors during refueling, but that falls under ACO regs for the WEC and LM as it's part of what can be done during driver changes.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 19:53 (Ref:3752233)   #261
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I chose not to include the Toyota protest because honestly, I only knew about it from reading DSC. I'd rather find my news myself and try to form a report/brief as it'll be good practice for the future. I need to be smoother at finding the details and stewards decisions, etc. Sometimes the media sections aren't the best if you're not already part of the inner circle of news.

The Porsche design might be an issue with tyre pickup, but it clearly had a performance advantage. So maybe it's worth living with because of that.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 20:11 (Ref:3752241)   #262
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Doesn't the WEC issue such things (officials decisions and reports) on their site? Or at least on the ACO's or FIA's sites? I remember them doing that, but I'm not exactly sure how to access them. However, like their technical regulations and sporting rules, they should be accessible for public consumption.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 20:13 (Ref:3752242)   #263
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I certainly saw them for Le Mans - not sure where though - buried on the ACO site somewhere....
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 20:22 (Ref:3752244)   #264
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Yeah you can get all the stewards decisions and technical regs easy enough in the media site. But right now I have to keep checking for them, and I'm maybe being a bit ambitious as I'm trying to cover WEC, ELMS and IMSA all together. So checking the sites isn't the best way of doing it, as I lose track. And IMSA currently won't even talk to me. WEC and ELMS (and Le Mans Cup) were easy enough to get started with though. I just need a system to find the data (or have it emailed to me automatically). I don't want to sponge off of DSC content, as that just isn't cool.

Blancpain very kindly writes its own race reports and emails them to you! Which is very nice of them. They're a bit long winded, but if you cut some paragraphs of bumph (do like that word...need to get it in a post some time) then it makes a nice easy report. I'll still be doing my own for practice though.

Currently, IMSA and Ferrari won't give me access to anything. Everyone else has been find and easy though. I'll try IMSA again when the site is launched.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 20:31 (Ref:3752245)   #265
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The last refuelling of the Porsche was a pure scandal even if strategically useful.
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Old 17 Jul 2017, 21:15 (Ref:3752257)   #266
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Then blame the ACO for giving double points for Le Mans. The #1 Porsche and #7 Toyota are both out of the title hunt because of their LM DNFs (and not scoring points) and are there basically as buffers and pawns unless something happens to the #2 Porsche and #8 Toyota to have them reeled back in.

Personally, I don't think that LM should be a points paying round since it's the only extra points round. If there's one race that should be an all star race for sportscar racing it's probably Le Mans. I know that a lot of people won't agree with me saying that the LM24 shouldn't be a points paying round, but it also doesn't make sense for it to be in the championship and it pay the same number of points as a 6 hour/1000km race does.

Or a compromise can be if you run 70% distance or time you automatically get points like you used to do in the ALMS. Wouldn't help the #7 Toyota and would only help the #1 Porsche if they were scored in LMP1 alone and not overall in a combined LMP1/LMP2 points situation.
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I certainly saw them for Le Mans - not sure where though - buried on the ACO site somewhere....
You can get the stewards decisions if you click on Notice Board on the Alkamel site
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I was at the N“Ring - here is my clip:
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