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Old 20 Mar 2016, 15:26 (Ref:3625197)   #31
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So if Mazda commission a bodywork and put it on a Riley, that will be the only place where that can go..
Is that the case though? Is there anything to stop Mazda going to Riley and say Onroak and commissioning 2 different body sets?

Quite a lot of questions like these have got me starting a site to get people asking and get some answers out.

http://mariantic.co.uk/lmp/DPI.asp

Just started it yesterday - about to add a Q&A section.

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Old 20 Mar 2016, 17:23 (Ref:3625240)   #32
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Is that the case though? Is there anything to stop Mazda going to Riley and say Onroak and commissioning 2 different body sets?
Each manufacturer partners with ONE chassis builder.
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Old 20 Mar 2016, 17:27 (Ref:3625241)   #33
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Each manufacturer partners with ONE chassis builder.
I guess they could say after a year or two: Well, this hasn't worked out, let's try with someone else.
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Old 20 Mar 2016, 17:47 (Ref:3625249)   #34
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Each manufacturer partners with ONE chassis builder.
What I'd really like to do on this exercise would be to get a link to a definitive statement on things like this.

Got one for this?

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Old 20 Mar 2016, 18:44 (Ref:3625264)   #35
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Old 20 Mar 2016, 20:01 (Ref:3625281)   #36
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even if following the same regs, lmp2 tubs can be different each other, so if GM developes a bodywork for the dallara lmp2, maybe these parts won't fit the ligier lmp2 tub, or oreca just to make an example.
Anyway this is a blind spot to me, because mazda and HPD will simply fit an engine inside a "standard" lmp2.
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Old 20 Mar 2016, 20:58 (Ref:3625297)   #37
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No. I mean Spirit of Daytona. They took over the project after it got to the point where they were the only ones running the chassis. Then Gen3 came along and because of Pratt & Miller's assistance in improving the chassis it for some reason became the preferred Corvette DP chassis(only two Corvette DPs didn't use Coyote chassis - and one of them has been rather infamously destroyed).

That said, though, it's TECHNICALLY more of a partnership, but all intents and purposes SoD owns and runs Coyote Cars at this point.
Bob Nelson is the owner of Coyote Cars and Action Express Racing, and Gary Nelson is the CEO of Coyote Cars and team manager for Action Express.

Spirit of Daytona were the only ones running the Coyote for a while, but I'm not sure who was in charge of building the chassis/parts at that point. Was it still Cheever?

It has been said several times that Action Express and Coyote are the same group.

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As far I know AXR owner, owns coyote too and SoD just owns one of their chassis since mid '2000 being their corvette DP mounted on their old DP2 tub. Anyway I don't think that P&M assisted coyote or anyone else like riley or dallara... the corvette DP "pack" is just a bodywork that can be fitted on all old DP2 chassis + GM engine.
Being just a bodywork and nothing more, you can watch at example that AXR and WTR, being "outside" the same car; have very different cockpit and tub structure. Corvette DP coyote chassis is the only version right handed
No, there was some mention about P&M helping develop the Coyote, specifically after Spirit of Daytona switched back to Chevy power from the Cayenne V8.

I have no clue when it started or how long it lasted though, but I do remember them talking about it during several broadcasts during 2011 about how there were some P&M guys in the Spirit of Daytona pits, and I remember them showing Mr. Pratt with the team in the pits at least once.
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Old 20 Mar 2016, 22:17 (Ref:3625328)   #38
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For whatever reason SoD seemed to be the factory favoured Corvette DP team for a little while (including factory drivers), but it's pretty clearly WTR at this point.

Coyote Cars and Action Express Racing have the same office in Daytona. Coyote and AXR's shops are across the street in Denver, North Carolina (Crawford Composites is next door, as I recall). Spirit of Daytona is just down the street in Daytona at the same address as Ben Kennedy's (Bill France Jr's grandson's) NASCAR K&N Pro Series Team had. It's all France family.

Fabcar was originally in Indianapolis and I assume it stayed there when Cheever renamed it Coyote and moved to North Carolina when the NASCAR mafia took it over.
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Old 20 Mar 2016, 22:33 (Ref:3625332)   #39
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With all the discussion about the future, hoping it will include technology of the future. Not seeing that in the discussions, yet.

Hey, Don, speak up! In the spirit of Sparky.
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I would love to see Panoz return to GT racing: http://autoweek.com/article/car-news...-1-only-890000

That picture made me remember that Panoz is selling that car again for street usage. So, in theory they could make the old GT1 into a race car again if they sell enough!
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That picture made me remember that Panoz is selling that car again for street usage. So, in theory they could make the old GT1 into a race car again if they sell enough!
Or if Panoz just really want to race it. IMSA will give the Don a ton of flexibility to run whatever he wants.
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Or if Panoz just really want to race it. IMSA will give the Don a ton of flexibility to run whatever he wants.
Wouldn't that be great to see that car running again? But you are right, the Don will be accommodated, just don't know what he wants to do. Is he done racing? Will the DW road car/gt make it? Will Panoz make a DPi body? Just don't know at this point.
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With all the discussion about the future, hoping it will include technology of the future. Not seeing that in the discussions, yet.

Hey, Don, speak up! In the spirit of Sparky.
And how many times does it have to be said that P-1 (technology and it's associated costs) are NOT on the table? It is a cost capped class on BOTH sides of the Pond.







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Maybe Coyote can partner up with Crawford and makes some customer based DPis with create Chevy engines, as a alternative to Gibson or a Factory engines.

We need little teams too

I don't think Gibsons has the output or the logistics to serve customers here in the States, and the current 5.5L Chevy engines from the old DPs is still pretty damn good engine.

If Don Panoz run in the DPi class, it's just gotta be a roadster.
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Maybe Coyote can partner up with Crawford and makes some customer based DPis with create Chevy engines, as a alternative to Gibson or a Factory engines.

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Not going to happen, as they aren't one of the four chassis manufacturers able to build an ACO or IMSA P2.

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I don't think Gibsons has the output or the logistics to serve customers here in the States, and the current 5.5L Chevy engines from the old DPs is still pretty damn good engine.
Until very recently, Oreca and OnRoak were in no position to support cars in North America.

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If Don Panoz run in the DPi class, it's just gotta be a roadster.
Regs say the car has to be closed top. Open top cars are done.
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