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What that you can't legally run it with an MGB engine or you can?
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MG Magnette - Interesting topic, nice cars. By accident I was asked about homologation forms for the ZA or ZB Magnette a few days ago and could not find any in the FIA lists. Maybe I looked in the wrong place or was the Magnette never homologated by MG in period, albeit been raced in several events? A similar situation actually existed for the MGA Twin Cam until official "re-homologation" by the FIA historic commission in the early 90ies. I think the Marcos 1800 GT was another of those cases. Any info on Magnette homologation forms? Best regards, Stephan Munich, Germany |
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Thus the best thing for the car may be to shove in a tuned 1622 with bigger carbs etc. and run it in OBG. However the OBG may allow the use of the 1798cc engine. Needs checking. |
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Hi Stephan, not thinking of replacing the 'B', are you? Or heaven forbid, the RS?
I remember a ZB varitone rally car around here in my youth, with MGB engine, discs, wider wheels etc., which looked and sounded very nice. Regards, Mike |
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Who said that?
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Glad we got that sorted, we don't want to mislead the poor chap. :-)
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so we're all agreed then, a '6 hour special' 2.1 Ally crossflow MGB engine on 48's it is
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With a five speed box, discs all round and Ford 9" rear axle on a five point linkage and weighing about 600kgs all up.
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Except it should be a Jag S Type rear axle, otherwise agreed.
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But only with a 7/8ths all Ally Body,then it would fit in perfectly.
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Working with Iain, anybody would be!
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Being serious.
It looks to me that you can run the car with a five bearing 1798cc engine if the only differences are pistons and crankshaft. Quote:
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I know, I was just thinking that myself.
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But it says the stroke of the crankshaft must remain the same so how do you get it to the 1800cc without increasing the stroke or is the 1800cc engine the same stroke as the 1500?
Yeah see a few of those Gordon, unfortunately the ones up at Bovingdon Race way had no iron and generally lasted one race unless the twice banger champ two years running, my old mate Les Button (no relation to Jenson but he don't half look like his old man and Jenson when younger so who knows) who had a real natural talent but liked banger racing nut unfortunately would not race in non-contact sport, he would make a car last a ruddy season! He once took his virtually brand new Pontiac TransAm around the track for a face off with the track owners Steve McQueen type Mustang. They staged it like a cycle sprint race to avoid damage and I sat in with him, after about ten laps he was right on the tale of the Mustang having soundly beat him. The guy who owned the track though declared it non and void as I was in the car giving it ballast! |
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Dunno Al, that's why I said "It looks to me".
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Funny how you guys get on to stock car racing because my dad grew up down the road from aldershot stadium so that was his era. He used to build superstox for his friends but never raced one. He said that he got scaired in practice so that was enuf. haha.
As for the magnettes i have im not intrested in messing around putting the 1800 engine in and i have a choice of 1622 and 1500 engines so thay will do me. I did have a good lagh at all the quotes earlier. You said he said so i said. Funny Funny. |
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Just looked on the Motorbase website (highly recommended as a good source of easy access to basic engine specs).
The 'B' series engine is shown as : 1489cc (as in MG Magnette ZA) 73.025mm bore X 89mm stroke 1622cc (as in Wolseley 16/60) 76.0mm " X 89mm " 1798cc (as in MG B) 80.26mm " X 89mm " So for HRSR it would have to be the 1489 unit with overbore to 1600cc ( and, presumably, the same for CTCRC). For OBG whatever it will bore out to. For Spa as Zef suggested. |
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What ever you do with it and where ever you race it Mart just make sure you do because all joking aside I think all of us here think of it fondly and as a great old machine in fact my first car was its big brother a tank of a car called a Wolseley 6/90 that shot its bolt in the middle of Edgware High Street!
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