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Old 10 Aug 2003, 13:08 (Ref:684208)   #26
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ops, we posted the results at the same time
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 13:26 (Ref:684217)   #27
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flexible-flyer should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
adam carroll made a rubbish start and lost big time. he was 20th but i think he made up some places.

van de merwe had a really quiet race, never even seen him.

rosberg didnt even start because he was sick.

couple of spin offs and minor crashes aswell. 1 safety car period didnt make much of a difference.
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 13:43 (Ref:684224)   #28
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That explains why Nico didn't qualify well yesterday.
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 14:03 (Ref:684236)   #29
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Are there any results?
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 14:04 (Ref:684237)   #30
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 14:47 (Ref:684253)   #31
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1 22 Christian KLIEN Dallara Mercedes-HWA 25 44:28.718 161,823 1:35.826 22
2 7 Nelson A PIQUET Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:29.044 +0.326 161,769 1:35.858 20
3 3 Ryan BRISCOE Dallara Opel - Spiess 25 44:31.730 +3.011 162,049 1:35.693 20
4 2 Nicolas LAPIERRE Dallara Renault-Sodemo 25 44:38.242 +9.524 160,786 1:36.444 7
5 9 Jamie GREEN Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:43.864 +15.145 160,663 1:36.518 20
6 23 Markus WINKELHOCK Dallara Mercedes-HWA 25 44:44.456 +15.737 160,450 1:36.646 21
7 12 Olivier PLA Dallara Mecedes-HWA 25 44:44.967 +16.248 160,440 1:36.652 20
8 8 Alan VAN DER MERWE Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:45.304 +16.585 160,514 1:36.607 21
9 15 Alexandre PREMAT Dallara Mecedes-HWA 25 44:45.937 +17.218 160,738 1:36.473 5
10 1 Fabio CARBONE Dallara F30 25 44:46.537 +17.818 160,591 1:36.561 21
11 11 Ronnie BREMER Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:46.788 +18.070 160,445 1:36.649 17
12 34 Joao Paulo de OLIVEIRA Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:47.265 +18.546 160,533 1:36.596 18
13 42 Adam CARROLL Dallara Opel - Spiess 25 44:48.022 +19.303 160,722 1:36.483 20
14 49 Robert DAHLGREN Dallara Renault- Sodemo 25 44:48.601 +19.882 161,547 1:35.990 21
15 50 Daniel LA ROSA Dallara Opel - Spiess 25 44:50.853 +22.135 160,444 1:36.650 21
16 33 Will DAVISON Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:51.133 +22.414 160,576 1:36.570 6
17 27 Jan HEYLEN Dallara Mercedes-HWA 25 44:52.560 +23.841 160,865 1:36.397 17
18 19 Robert DOORNBOS Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:53.107 +24.388 160,807 1:36.432 19
19 35 Clivio PICCIONE Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:53.528 +24.809 160,882 1:36.387 20
20 36 Stefano FABI Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 44:54.537 +25.818 160,545 1:36.589 20
21 37 Tor GRAVES Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 45:01.031 +32.312 159,728 1:37.083 6
22 20 Alvaro PARENTE Dallara Honda-Mugen 25 45:01.402 +32.684 159,599 1:37.161 20
23 38 Danny WATTS Dallara Renault- Sodemo 25 45:01.697 +32.978 160,826 1:36.420 4
24 48 Ernesto VISO Dallara Renault- Sodemo 25 45:04.967 +36.249 159,582 1:37.172 25
25 40 Andrew THOMPSON Dallara Renault- Sodemo 25 45:05.720 +37.002 160,081 1:36.869 25
26 24 Andreas ZUBER Dallara Opel - Spiess 25 45:07.526 +38.807 159,614 1:37.152 21
27 14 Bruno SPENGLER Dallara Mecedes-HWA 25 45:07.802 +39.083 160,960 1:36.340 18
28 46 Marcel LASEE Dallara Opel - Spiess 25 45:10.315 +41.596 159,561 1:37.185 20
29 6 Katsuyuki HIRANAKA Dallara Opel - Spiess 25 45:10.587 +41.869 159,292 1:37.349 16
30 41 Timo GLOCK Dallara Opel - Spiess 25 45:12.240 +43.521 160,668 1:36.515 24
31 26 Charles ZWOLSMAN Dallara Mercedes-HWA 22 40:11.962 3 ronden 159,370 1:37.301 20
32 10 Richard ANTINUCCI Dallara Honda-Mugen 14 35:38.622 11 ronden 161,315 1:36.128 14
33 4 Robert KUBICA Dallara Opel - Spiess 13 25:25.663 12 ronden 159,950 1:36.949 6
34 51 Alexandre MARGARITIS Dallara Opel - Spiess 6 9:58.263 19 ronden 159,828 1:37.022 6
35 28 Bernhard AUINGER Dallara Toyota- Toms 6 10:06.212 19 ronden 158,381 1:37.909 6
36 39 Eric SALIGNON Dallara Renault- Sodemo 5 8:30.067 20 ronden 157,458 1:38.482 5
37 43 Billy ASARO Dallara Opel - Spiess 5 8:30.167 20 ronden 157,754 1:38.298 5
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 14:51 (Ref:684257)   #32
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That explains why Nico didn't qualify well yesterday.
There were rumours that he did not drive because his father thought it would be bad for Nico's career if the result was bad.
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 15:35 (Ref:684276)   #33
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flor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridflor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
the commentators said already during the qualifying that he was ill
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 17:48 (Ref:684353)   #34
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Daisy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
The drivers become younger by the day

The 2-year-old(!) Austrian beat pole-sitter Nelson Piquet Jr. and Ryan Briscoe to the chequered flag.

(source: F1 Racing.net)
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 18:20 (Ref:684377)   #35
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blimey, how did he manage to reach the peddles!
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 20:13 (Ref:684455)   #36
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steve nielsen should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Rosberg seems to have some sort of alergy, his fingers where swolen so he coul'dnt hold the wheel.
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 21:27 (Ref:684530)   #37
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allergy to being beaten perhaps?
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 22:21 (Ref:684564)   #38
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Congratulations to Tor Graves, he did well to get into the race and finish ahead of some more "highly rated" drivers.

To reply to a point made earlier, Ernesto was driving for Fortec this weekend in a "Class A" car, his first run in the current spec Dallara, he usually drives a "Class B" Dallara for P1. It is generally accepted that the previous generation of Dallara chasis has a wider "sweet spot" and hence is easier to drive.
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 22:26 (Ref:684566)   #39
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especially if you're fairly over enthusiastic with the car like ernesto is. and it's a different car.

i thought someone said andrew thompson didn't qualify!
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 22:31 (Ref:684570)   #40
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He didn't but was 1st reserve, so when Nico withdrew he got to play!

Ernesto is fast and could be very good when he's smoothed of the rough edges!
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Old 10 Aug 2003, 22:40 (Ref:684575)   #41
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definitely, he was very fast in renaults last year, and he's a smart kid. always a good start...
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Old 11 Aug 2003, 07:51 (Ref:684745)   #42
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Alx should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Any info on the retirements?

I'm mainly interested in Antinucci and Kubica.
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Old 11 Aug 2003, 09:09 (Ref:684809)   #43
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Pretty good race. Shame Bremer and Watts got together down at turn 1.

Too much sand at Zandvoort for my liking. Watts, Viso and Fortec were on my flight home.
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Old 11 Aug 2003, 09:21 (Ref:684816)   #44
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Daisy should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Kubica had technical problems, at one moment he parked his car almost at the middle of the track! I have no idea about Antinucchi.
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Old 11 Aug 2003, 09:59 (Ref:684834)   #45
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Can anyone explain me about Van der Merwe's coulourless performance?
Many a driver of British championship outperformed him..
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Old 11 Aug 2003, 10:08 (Ref:684840)   #46
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flor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridflor should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
many? only nelsinho and green were faster
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Old 11 Aug 2003, 11:52 (Ref:684923)   #47
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Good result for Nelsinho. Faster than Green, Van der Merwe, Briscoe...

But as his father always said: 2nd is the first loser.
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Old 11 Aug 2003, 13:19 (Ref:685021)   #48
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he needs to get over those bad starts!
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Old 11 Aug 2003, 13:42 (Ref:685039)   #49
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Agreed, but read below: Nelsinho was perhaps on the slow side of the track, and it was difficult to overtake. But this is no excuse - Klien deserved to win. Klien, Nelsinho and Briscoe did a good job.


from crash.net

In front of a race day crowd of over 50,000 people, Nelson Angelo Piquet Jr. today finished the prestigious Marlboro Masters of F3 event in second position having been overtaken on the run-up to the first corner on the opening lap.

Some people deemed Piquet's outside grid position to be slower than Christian Klien's second slot and Klien certainly made the most of his inside line.

The largest lead Klien held was just over one second, but this was intermitted with several aggressive attacks from Piquet, though to no avail due to a circuit deemed virtually impossible for passing.


"Unfortunately we didn't have a good start," commented Piquet, "The race was difficult, I tried to overtake and pushed and pushed, the car was very good over most of the circuit except the final corner where I had too much understeer which meant I couldn't mount a challenge down the pit straight and into the first corner.

"When I saw five laps remaining I tried to attack again but there was no way past. I am happy for my first year though and very happy to have taken the pole, it has been good and next year I will try to win it."

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Old 11 Aug 2003, 16:12 (Ref:685175)   #50
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The Dutch commentator Allard Kalf said that the Honda cars are slow starters. Is this true?
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