2009 British Superbike - Page 3

jhansen · 24 Jun 2009, 00:12 (Ref:2489472)

I'm really looking forward to seeing how Camier and Ellison fair at Donnington as wildcards for World Superbike. Mainly Camier though.

**gomick** · 24 Jun 2009, 09:52 (Ref:2489632)

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Originally Posted by chunder

A little boring to be honest

THough ITV have the right idea by never showing the Airwvaes riders!! Utterly dull for them too I imagine

Is the Airwaves team that much better than the other teams - why do they dominate?

chunder · 24 Jun 2009, 18:47 (Ref:2489984)

Dominant yes, well funded yes, factory links yes, therefore best riders yes!!

And they pick English ones and win!! Yabooo sucks to HM plant

**gomick** · 25 Jun 2009, 07:41 (Ref:2490258)

Typical, always talking up them pommy riders

- though it is a British Championship

Reckon Glen Richards could almost have dual citizenship by now, been over there for 10 years plus...

**gomick** · 5 Jul 2009, 11:43 (Ref:2496068)

Chunder - Aussies on pole in both Superbike & Supersport, must be the warm weather over there

chunder · 5 Jul 2009, 12:37 (Ref:2496089)

Well sadly the Aus series is too rubbish to attract any Brits so we will levae it to the guy that shouldnt even be allowed to ride after knocking off the championships leader on teh warm up lap!!

**gomick** · 5 Jul 2009, 13:04 (Ref:2496098)

Shouldnt bag the Aussie series, it doesnt attract Brits because the teams dont need them - the Brits go straight to the WSB

... I dont care if you bag Brookes, he has lost a bit of my respect!

richrad smith · 5 Jul 2009, 17:43 (Ref:2496176)

gents

was following the bsb rounds @ knockhill on tsl timing

and the times kept changing colour

can any of u knowledgeable people out the advise as to what the colour changes mean

jock3 · 5 Jul 2009, 18:26 (Ref:2496201)

For those that couldn't make it here's an album of 100+ photos from the 3 days @ Knockhill http://knockhillracingcircuit.fotopic.net/ -Enjoy!

**gomick** · 6 Jul 2009, 00:53 (Ref:2496333)

So Leon Camier takes another 2 race wins, yay... Simon Andrews is going well on the Kawasaki

. When is Sylvain Guintoli back?

Superbike Points after 12 rounds...

1. Leon Camier - 267
2. James Ellison - 189
3. Stuart Easton - 173
4. Glen Richards - 103
5. Joshua Brookes - 99
6. Simon Andrews - 92

Great win for Ben Wilson & Kawasaki in the 600's...

Supersport Points after 6 rounds...

1. Steve Plater - 100
2. Billy McConnell - 85
3. Daniel Cooper - 73
4. Ben Wilson - 72
5. James Westmoreland - 72

BootsOntheSide · 7 Jul 2009, 23:12 (Ref:2497545)

The Supersport race was a classic, a shame it was stopped one lap early but at least it didn't result in a change of winner (Wilson passed Westmoreland just over a lap before the red came out - Westy had been using the Triumph's horsepower advantage to hold off a load of better-handling bikes). Plater fell off just as he took the lead. What's going on with Kennaugh this year though, he was p-nowhere all weekend.

**gomick** · 20 Jul 2009, 01:41 (Ref:2504547)

Mallory Park...

Yamaha's of Ellison & Camier win both races with another Yamaha 3rd in both races, Josh Brookes screws up again - he's gotta be better than that

. Be a good championship if the top 3 were not in it

Superbike Points after 14 of 24...

Leon Camier - 299.5
James Ellison - 224
Stuart Easton - 173
Glen Richards - 103
Joshua Brookes - 99
Simon Andrews - 92.5
Karl Harris - 91.5
Chris Walker - 87
Ian Lowry - 86
Julien da Costa - 80

Kawasaki finish 1-2 in the Supersport race with Chris Martin getting his 1st race win - good title chase this...

Supersport Points after 7 of 12...

Steve Plater - 109
Billy McConnell - 98
Ben Wilson - 92
Daniel Cooper - 81
James Westmoreland - 72

BootsOntheSide · 20 Jul 2009, 10:07 (Ref:2504711)

It'd be a good championship if Josh Brookes wasn't in it. First Guintoli's season wrecked, now seven bikes taken down due to a wild move which was never going to work. The way the rulebook was applied was a bit of a surprise, and surely has to be looked at in order to be fairer. The 6pm noise curfew is a bit of a joke - who urgently needs peace and quiet at 6pm but chooses to live within earshot of a racing circuit?

racer69 · 20 Jul 2009, 15:48 (Ref:2504939)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

The 6pm noise curfew is a bit of a joke - who urgently needs peace and quiet at 6pm but chooses to live within earshot of a racing circuit?

We've got a better one in Australia, Sandown has a 4.45pm curfew....

DavidStHubbins · 20 Jul 2009, 18:10 (Ref:2505006)

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Originally Posted by racer69

We've got a better one in Australia, Sandown has a 4.45pm curfew....

This is why Western Australia has Wanneroo race track - way out in the boonies among the forests.

Only people likely to complain around there are serial killers and mafia busy digging shallow graves.

(And I'm not even joking)

Pity the Australian series doesn't even bother going there anymore.

Hepatic · 20 Jul 2009, 21:09 (Ref:2505081)

****ing Idiots.

Why am i so mad? Take a look at the results for the 2008 Supersport round at Brand Hatch, the one in which Craig Jones was tragically killed. Notice who came second? Thats right, the guy that didn't live to see the podium.

It does state in the rules that;

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1.10.1.3 If a race has to be stopped after the leader has completed two-thirds of the original race distance, rounded down to the nearest number of laps, it will be considered to have finished.
(a) The order of classification shall be based upon the order of last crossing the finish line prior to the showing of the red flag, and only competitors who are racing at the showing of the red flag will be classified.

But if thats the case then why was Craig classified? Some degree of common sense needs to prevail here - it wiped out the top 7 riders, its not reasonable to declassify them due to the incident, same as it wasn't for Craig.

Brookes has been banned for 2 races and another 1 suspended for 2, but it doesn't give all the other guys their well earned points does it?

racer69 · 21 Jul 2009, 03:06 (Ref:2505196)

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Originally Posted by Hepatic

But if thats the case then why was Craig classified?

To be honest i had wondered that at the time, as in the past in World Supersport other riders who caused a red flag had not been classified, or sent to the rear of the grid for any restart.

**gomick** · 21 Jul 2009, 09:42 (Ref:2505320)

I remember Foret at Brands leading a race, looking over his shoulder as he does & high siding causing a red flag - no penalty for him, think he even won the race...

BootsOntheSide · 21 Jul 2009, 10:10 (Ref:2505329)

Maybe the World and British championship rules are slightly different - although Stuart Higgs stated that the exclusion of inactive riders has been going on in all those championships for over 20 years, which is completely false. It does make you wonder why riders, team owners, commentators and viewers were seemingly unfamiliar with a significant rule though.

**gomick** · 8 Aug 2009, 10:33 (Ref:2517777)

The Kawasaki Racing Team riders of Sheridan Morais & Broc Parkes are right on the pace at Brands after 3 practice sessions...
Am i missing something, was Simon Andrews there or is he injured

**gomick** · 8 Aug 2009, 12:44 (Ref:2517816)

In a perfect world probably what is expected - tho, Kawasaki are probably "over the moon" with this result...

Qualifying...

1. Leon Camier (Airwaves Yamaha) 1:26.860
2. Broc Parkes (Kawasaki World Superbike) +0.233
3. Sheridan Morais (Kawasaki World Superbike) +0.403

BootsOntheSide · 8 Aug 2009, 18:32 (Ref:2517905)

The success of the Paul Bird Kawasakis sadly seems to sum up the status of BSB this year - those bikes have been lower midfield all year at World level but are immediately on the BSB pace, on a circuit they've never ridden the bike at (Morais has probably never ridden a Superbike of any kind there, Parkes not since 2002). No wonder Airwaves have dominated so much despite not testing before the first round - the opposition are a bunch of journeymen, underfunded teams and riders who've been injured too long.

**gomick** · 8 Aug 2009, 21:48 (Ref:2518130)

Do Airwaves have WSBK aspirations?

chunder · 9 Aug 2009, 10:21 (Ref:2518310)

I wouldnt call Guintoli, Brookes, Hill, Andrews journey men, little unfair.

Airwaves have the best funding and the best bikes and if you look at WSBK there are a few ex BSB riders doing rather well there right now, that was its strength last year to be replaced by a tricky tear this year with less well funded teams and a lower class of rider.

But calling guys liek Glen Richards, Chris Walker, Graeme Gowland journey men is a little harsh, Walker has won WSBK race, Richards has won championships on poor bikes and was fastest ever 750 round Brands WSB round.

If you look at it, WSBK has raised its game considerably this year, a lot of riders are coming to the fore. Kawasaki team is a factory team, only one in the world, so you might expect them to be half decent"!

**gomick** · 9 Aug 2009, 23:57 (Ref:2518533)

Airwaves & Camier are making them look like journeymen... Another 3 race wins from Camier & Airwaves, Broc Parkes was 2nd in each race...

Superbike Points after 17 rounds...

Leon Camier - 374.5
James Ellison - 261
Stuart Easton - 218
Karl Harris - 111.5
Glen Richards - 103
Ian Lowry - 101
Joshua Brookes - 99
Chris Walker - 98
Simon Andrews - 92.5
Julien da Costa - 91

James Westmoreland got the race win from Billy McConnell...

Supersport Points after 8 of 12...

Steve Plater - 125
Billy McConnell - 118
Ben Wilson - 105
James Westmoreland - 97
Daniel Cooper - 81

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