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Old 15 Mar 2012, 09:44 (Ref:3041364)   #1
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Future Grands Prix?

I see Argentina is planning on joining the list of GP's for 2013


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98025

I cannot see how they will get a circuit built from scratch in time unless they are planning on a street circuit.
If Argentina joins who goes?
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Old 15 Mar 2012, 09:52 (Ref:3041370)   #2
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Maybe it could replace Bahrain until the political situation there calms down?

I for one would like to see a GP in Argentina again.

Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to update the Buenos Aires circuit (assuming it's still there?) instead of constructing a new circuit?
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Old 15 Mar 2012, 10:32 (Ref:3041392)   #3
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I believe Buenos Aires is still there. I'd love to see them use the outer part of the track to bolster up the laptimes a little. Add a mile of run-off to the long right hander at the back! One can dream

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Here's a proposal I come up with long ago. Using the outter loop, slowing it down slightly, and doing the track in anti-clockwise. Could almost be a modern-day Hockenheim. It works out about 3.8 miles in length:

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Old 15 Mar 2012, 14:06 (Ref:3041527)   #4
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How about adding no run off.

I hate seeing classic tracks ruined just so F1 can go there for a few races then get bored and go elsewhere.

Case in point : Mt Fuji
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Old 15 Mar 2012, 14:17 (Ref:3041531)   #5
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Diniz in the Oven! That's one of the overriding memories I have of that track. The other one was of Jos Verstappen retiring his Simtek from 5th place! There was something else that happened to Coulthard, too?

It would be a great track to go back to, but it would seem that something in a new location is already underway.

"Ground was broken on the Velociudad Speedcity site, situated 80 kilometers from Buenos Aires, on Friday (article dated December 19th 2011)."

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Old 15 Mar 2012, 15:50 (Ref:3041576)   #6
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How about adding no run off.

I hate seeing classic tracks ruined just so F1 can go there for a few races then get bored and go elsewhere.

Case in point : Mt Fuji
I agree mate, i'm just talking in real terms, here.

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Old 15 Mar 2012, 18:21 (Ref:3041693)   #7
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Our President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner announcement yesterday at Government House the possibility of the retourn the F1 to Argentina in 2013, 2014 y 2015. The circuit will be a street circuit in Mar del Plata.
Mar del Plata is the most important tourism and seaside city in Argentine.
It is the same city that the last january ago the Rally Dakar Started. Excuse me for my bad english
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Old 15 Mar 2012, 18:40 (Ref:3041712)   #8
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Our President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner announcement yesterday at Government House the possibility of the retourn the F1 to Argentina in 2013, 2014 y 2015. The circuit will be a street circuit in Mar del Plata.
Mar del Plata is the most important tourism and seaside city in Argentine.
It is the same city that the last january ago the Rally Dakar Started. Excuse me for my bad english
Your English is fine.

No doubt the race will be scheduled for either just before or just after the Brazilian GP. Argentina has a good history of motor racing and has had some excellent drivers. Fingers crossed that all goes to plan.
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Old 15 Mar 2012, 18:47 (Ref:3041719)   #9
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I believe Buenos Aires is still there.
Yes Buenos Aires is still there by the La Plata River, thank GOD !
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The circuit will be a street circuit in Mar del Plata.
Mar del Plata is the most important tourism and seaside city in Argentine.
It is the same city that the last january ago the Rally Dakar Started. Excuse me for my bad english
Mar del Plata is just great !
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Mar del Plata hosted the Grand Prix back in the late 1940s.
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Old 15 Mar 2012, 19:16 (Ref:3041738)   #12
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Yes Buenos Aires is still there by the La Plata River, thank GOD !
I think that if it had been 'Nuked' we would have heard about it.

Hopefully these people have got it together in a better way than the people in Texas have so far managed to put things together.
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Old 15 Mar 2012, 19:49 (Ref:3041762)   #13
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In 2008 or 2009 Hermann Tilke Visited Mar del Plata and observed the city.
This is some photos of Mar del Plata http://www.google.com.ar/search?tbm=isch&hl=es&source=hp&biw=1140&bih=544&q=mar+del+plata&gbv=2&oq=mar+del+plata&aq=f&aqi=&aq l=&gs_sm=12&gs_upl=0l0l0l2568l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&gs_l=img.12...0l0l0l2569l0l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0..
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How about adding no run off.

I hate seeing classic tracks ruined just so F1 can go there for a few races then get bored and go elsewhere.

Case in point : Mt Fuji
I'd like to stick up for F1 in this case, Mount Fuji was ruined many years before F1 went back.
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In 2008 or 2009 Hermann Tilke Visited Mar del Plata and observed the city.
Oh no, that's no good !!
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This is the Mar del Plata street circuit
http://autoblog.com.ar/2012/03/asi-s...-la-formula-1/
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So many straights...
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Looking on Google Earth, there are a number of things that would appear to be unpractical, not least that roundabout loop
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It's a better stab at Monaco than Valencia have managed. Looks good. Another circuit by the sea.
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Wow, Bernie's really pushing the envelope.
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This is the photo to the circuit in HD http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-M3ofZf6IsW...1%2BMARDEL.jpg
The circuit will have 18 corners with 5000 meters to extension. In the simulators the average lap is 1m33s with 193 Km/h of average.
In the end of the principal straight, located on the North Breakwater and in the course to de sea, the cars will break 321 Km/h.
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Where will be the pit lane entrance/exit anyway ?
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