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**Peter Mallett** · 29 Sep 2002, 20:22 (Ref:391381)

It was Ralf's fault and Montoya looked like a racer today.

Still doesn't look like a God to me though.

S'funny how Montoya thought Ralf was daft at Monza and yet pulls the same stroke in Indy though.

RT · 29 Sep 2002, 20:31 (Ref:391398)

It seems to me Ralf beat Juan at the start and Ralf was defending his line and position at the time of contact.

I don't see how that was Ralf's fault.

I'll also say it was typical of Montoya to have to, have to, absolutely have to risk everything during the first few laps.

Even if it was a racing accident and none of the drivers is clearly at fault. It is also something you expect from drivers of different teams and not the same team. Patrick and Juan need to understand that Ralf is not going to roll over and play dead. There have to be a few agreements made and enforced. Right now Patrick has lost control of his team.

I wonder what BMW will say.

neilap · 29 Sep 2002, 20:33 (Ref:391400)

It was Ralphs fault! He hit the curb and he hit his teammate.

**Asp** · 29 Sep 2002, 20:34 (Ref:391402)

I take it you didn't see Pat Head's reaction? If looks could kill...

Sato san · 29 Sep 2002, 20:38 (Ref:391411)

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Originally posted by RT
I don't see how that was Ralf's fault.

do you use a white walking stick by anychance ?????

Evilsenna · 29 Sep 2002, 20:41 (Ref:391416)

Ralf definitely lost it before hitting Montoya

He hit Montoya with the back of his car!

Damon · 29 Sep 2002, 22:36 (Ref:391538)

Get some pictures from the digital feed RT, then you'll what actually happened.

Good to see you standing up and admitting you were wrong Mr Mallet. See Juan's not all bad!!!

J.McClane · 29 Sep 2002, 22:44 (Ref:391549)

I don't think it was Ralf's fault.
He spun and hit Monty's car, i don't think that Ralf spun due to any fault on his part.
It seemed to me a bad racin' incedent

Damon · 29 Sep 2002, 22:48 (Ref:391554)

How can a driver spin and it not be his fault?

J.McClane · 29 Sep 2002, 22:51 (Ref:391559)

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Originally posted by Damon
How can a driver spin and it not be his fault?

debris/oil on the track, a problem with the car, someone else causin' the car to spin.................do you wan't me to carry on?

Damon · 29 Sep 2002, 22:52 (Ref:391560)

none of which happened to Ralf.

Champ69 · 29 Sep 2002, 22:53 (Ref:391563)

I assume it was Montys fault when he took out david earlier in the year. When Monty takes out someone for outbraking himself and hitting the curb he is a racer and not at fault, but when Ralf does ?????

Ralf made an error, next year will be a good one with these two.

J.McClane · 29 Sep 2002, 22:54 (Ref:391564)

Quote:

Originally posted by Damon
none of which happened to Ralf.

I didn't say they did.
I just answered your question.

Damon · 29 Sep 2002, 22:57 (Ref:391567)

Champ69, you amongst others crucified JPM after the nurburgring, despite the fact it wasn't his team mate and JPM was running on completly shot tyres, making the car virtually undrivable. Ralf was on lap two in a car that he admitted afterwards was "very quick" but lost it of his own trying too hard to defend a lost position.

Tristan · 29 Sep 2002, 23:10 (Ref:391575)

Who's getting a *******ing!! Laa la la laa laa!!

Damon · 29 Sep 2002, 23:11 (Ref:391578)

Go and stand in the corner Tristan

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Tristan · 29 Sep 2002, 23:22 (Ref:391586)

I said "*******ing and got away with it!!

YAY!! Um.... arse?? Cock?? Testicles?? I know - MINGE!!

Tristan · 29 Sep 2002, 23:23 (Ref:391587)

HAS THE CENSORING THING GONE MAD?? How's about "****"??

Tristan · 29 Sep 2002, 23:24 (Ref:391588)

Alas...

Damon · 29 Sep 2002, 23:26 (Ref:391593)

arr... worth a go!! Hey what does that say about F1, just a few hours after the race and we've already resorted to seeing what words beat the censor.

Tristan · 29 Sep 2002, 23:32 (Ref:391598)

Actually, that's just me, Damon. Again.

Champ69 · 30 Sep 2002, 00:25 (Ref:391624)

Quote:

Originally posted by Damon
Champ69, you amongst others crucified JPM after the nurburgring, despite the fact it wasn't his team mate and JPM was running on completly shot tyres, making the car virtually undrivable. Ralf was on lap two in a car that he admitted afterwards was "very quick" but lost it of his own trying too hard to defend a lost position.

Champ69 · 30 Sep 2002, 00:27 (Ref:391625)

Quote:

Originally posted by Champ69

sorry,

Ralf was at fault as he made an error just as JPM was at the nurburgring.

crazytrain · 30 Sep 2002, 00:29 (Ref:391626)

I could remember last year Ralf keeping JPM behind him even after Head told him to move over to let JPM by and costing JPM the race, so it was a now or never move. I'm thinking JPM knows Ralf is just like his brother who basically will do whatever it takes to win races or God forbid ever a championship (Suzuka 1997 Micheal turning into J. villneuve). Look what happened 2 weeks ago Ralf again almost ran his teamate out of the race. Ralf is on of the only drivers in the padock who is not a team player JPM knows that.

Champ69 · 30 Sep 2002, 00:30 (Ref:391627)

I am finished posting for the day. I woke up at 3.50am to watch the race and judging by my typing skills this morning I need to go to bed. so goodnight and please be nice to Ralf while I am away.......

, no need to be nice to Monty

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