Kimi to Ferrari in 2007? - Page 2

Knowlesy · 29 Aug 2005, 19:48 (Ref:1393942)

I can't diss Mika, loved him! Still do.........not in that way though, you understand.

It was a very brief era though looking back. Felt longer than it was.

ASCII Man · 29 Aug 2005, 21:25 (Ref:1394048)

Kimi to Ferrari in 2007?
Why?

Everyone leaves Ferrari as soon as Michael does anyway so why bother?

Red2 · 29 Aug 2005, 21:43 (Ref:1394073)

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Originally Posted by ASCII Man

Kimi to Ferrari in 2007?
Why?

exactly - Kimi will blitz the championship with McLaren Next year and in 07. Ferrari by then will be dealing with the loss of Schumi and battling in the mid field.

senna12 · 30 Aug 2005, 02:27 (Ref:1394145)

Looks like Felipe will just be keeping the seat warm.....

http://www.gp2005.com/news/controlle...&news_id=14067

If the rumour mill didn't exist, we wouldn't have nearly as much fun speculating. A lineup of Kimi and Vale would be worth a fortune in pr value to them.

Andrew2001 · 30 Aug 2005, 04:50 (Ref:1394174)

I can see why Kimi would throw away the best car on the grid with the best team around him and with it his best chance at winning championships, and go for a decaying team which is passed it's best, wait, no I can't see why.

Kicking-back · 30 Aug 2005, 05:16 (Ref:1394189)

I don't believe the Rossi stories either.

Okay, John Surtees did it, but I think the days of going into F1 with no car racing under your belt are well and truly over

Menelaos · 30 Aug 2005, 07:53 (Ref:1394253)

Rossi and Raikkonen in Ferrari in 2007? YEAH RIGHT

(ok, let's see how stupid this post will look if things go that way, yet

)

BSchneiderFan · 30 Aug 2005, 10:53 (Ref:1394353)

People are queueing up to write Ferrari's obituary, aren't they? Let's wait and see. Ferrari walked the championship last year and their talents haven't just gone away. Bridgestone might well be more competitive next year with more teams switching from Michelin, and remember that the V8s will be a new experience for everyone, so I'd expect a company with as much experience and depth of talent as Ferrari to make a good fist of it. Let's not write Ferrari off yet.

N I Tram · 30 Aug 2005, 10:53 (Ref:1394356)

McLaren should be the better option for Kimi long-term. And Rossi would surely need a season of F3 followed by a year of testing alongside perhaps GP2 to be ready for F1, no matter how good he is. Sato didn't do karting, only started racing cars at 19, and has suffered for it; imagine how big a disadvantage Valé would be at.

BSchneiderFan · 30 Aug 2005, 10:56 (Ref:1394360)

If Rossi's lap times in testing are competitive, he has a strong case for a race drive, irrespective of his car racing experience.

**Born Racer** · 30 Aug 2005, 11:24 (Ref:1394385)

Wouldn't Rossi be required to undertake some other car racing first in order to gain a superlicence?

BSchneiderFan · 30 Aug 2005, 11:28 (Ref:1394391)

I think the FIA could exercise discretion if they so wished - didn't they have to do that for Raikkonen?

BootsOntheSide · 30 Aug 2005, 12:39 (Ref:1394452)

As I udnerstand it, if you get through a certain amount of testing without problems and by setting respctable laptimes, you can be granted a superlicense irrespective of other racing experience, but I may be wrong.

Marbot · 30 Aug 2005, 12:58 (Ref:1394469)

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Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

As I udnerstand it, if you get through a certain amount of testing without problems and by setting respctable laptimes, you can be granted a superlicense irrespective of other racing experience, but I may be wrong.

That's right,you're not wrong.Nissany got one no problem.

**Dani Filth** · 30 Aug 2005, 15:46 (Ref:1394567)

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Originally Posted by Andrew2001

I can see why Kimi would throw away the best car on the grid with the best team around him and with it his best chance at winning championships, and go for a decaying team which is passed it's best, wait, no I can't see why.

Schu did it in 96 ... and decaying .. please. .

senna12 · 30 Aug 2005, 15:46 (Ref:1394568)

According to reports, Vale has already done the necessary kilometres to qualify for his superlicense (I think it is 300 km.). Several different reports have stated that he was only 1.5 sec. off MS's record at Fiorano. Sure, Sato has suffered for lack of experience. But Rossi is a completely different kettle of fish. I would not discount the possibility, however remote it may seem.

luke · 30 Aug 2005, 17:11 (Ref:1394631)

What I can't understand is why Kimi would want to leave a winning team and head off to Ferrari who will continue to be uncompetitve when he can base his future on a leading team as such as Mclaren.

Kicking-back · 30 Aug 2005, 17:13 (Ref:1394633)

Luke - I fully expect Kimi will continue at McLaren - this may see his remuneration increased though.

luke · 30 Aug 2005, 17:14 (Ref:1394637)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

Luke - I fully expect Kimi will continue at McLaren - this may see his remuneration increased though.

So do I, I can't see why people think he'd want to leave Mclaren for Ferrari when he has it on his plate at Mclaren.

BSchneiderFan · 30 Aug 2005, 17:36 (Ref:1394666)

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Originally Posted by luke

What I can't understand is why Kimi would want to leave a winning team and head off to Ferrari who will continue to be uncompetitve when he can base his future on a leading team as such as Mclaren.

How do you know Ferrari will continue to be uncompetitive?

Kicking-back · 30 Aug 2005, 17:38 (Ref:1394668)

Byrne - going - and they're already suffering from the lack of his input on this car

Brawn - will be going

Todt - will be going

These will be key factors

Plus F1 is cyclical - Ferrari's cycle is over for now

luke · 30 Aug 2005, 17:42 (Ref:1394673)

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Originally Posted by BSchneiderFan

How do you know Ferrari will continue to be uncompetitive?

How do you know they won't?

But I will answer you. The only reason why they had success when they did was because of Michael, they have made many improvements and failed to be competitive. You'll see. This time last year no one believed me when I said Ferrari wouldn't be comeptitive this year and I was correct.

Knowlesy · 30 Aug 2005, 17:59 (Ref:1394692)

Ferrari are just as likely to bounce back as they are to be no better off next year.

It is hard to foresee Ferrari being competitive next year, but let's just wait and see. F1 changes fast as we have witnessed this year.

I agree that the chassis isn't as good as it could be and that Byrne is missed a bit, but the main crux of the problem is Bridgestone, that much is plain to see from performance patterns throughout the year.

BSchneiderFan · 30 Aug 2005, 19:18 (Ref:1394768)

I'm happy to wait and see; I was questioning those who assume that Ferrari's lack of pace will continue. I agree with knowlesy that a huge proportion of their woes can be ascribed to Bridgestone, something I do expect to change next year if another team or two (apart from Red Bull) switch from Michelin. Byrne's increasing detachment may have affected the F2005, but it could as easily be a blip while the design guys find their feet post-Byrne as it could the beginning of a steep decline. The departure of Byrne, Brawn and Todt will make a difference, but these guys have worked hard to ensure a smooth transition, so it won't necessarily signal the end of Ferrari's performance.

**Dani Filth** · 30 Aug 2005, 20:09 (Ref:1394837)

Quote:

Originally Posted by luke

What I can't understand is why Kimi would want to leave a winning team and head off to Ferrari who will continue to be uncompetitve when he can base his future on a leading team as such as Mclaren.

i repeat . why did Schu go to Ferrari in 96 after winning both championships with Benetton ???

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